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Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« on: May 01, 2016, 01:56:51 PM »

The people have spoken!

This month's tune: Sansonnette, a wonderful schottische, perhaps "the" schottische, written by Dominique Forges a fine gurdy (and other things) player with (I believe) la Chavannee (and other groups).

I've already done this one when we had a schottische theme, , and it looks like this on a Hohner C/F https://youtu.be/OVH5oAJt44Y?t=2m7s

There are quite a few others out there too, like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT52Y7YqN2Y and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89fh8X8KpSw . I used to think ideally it needed accidentals to get that opening few notes right (one of the reasons it hasn't been nominated yet), but the last example seems to zap along quite nicely without apparently hitting any accidentals, so perhaps you can get away with it quite easily.

Fits nicely on a 2 row with accidentals; if you haven't got accidentals, you can skip it quite successfully as shown above. On a 1 row, I don't know! Perhaps we'll find out!

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2016, 03:36:28 PM »

If anyone has time to upload dots, I'd appreciate it - could be in any key, though I'll probably end up playing it in Am.
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2016, 04:38:25 PM »

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2016, 04:52:52 PM »

Thanks, Arty. I can tweak from there.
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2016, 05:11:38 PM »

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2016, 09:13:47 PM »

The abc in Am (from the first file)

X:406
T:La sansonette
C:Dominique Forges
R:scottiche
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:Am
|: e2  d2 ed cB | zd cB A4 | AB cd ed e2 | g2  f2 e4 |
e2 de d2 cB | zd cB A4 | AB cd e2 dc | Bc de B4 :|
|: e2 ce fc ef | e2 ce fc ef | B3 e fB ef | e2 Be fB ef | e2 ce fc eg |
eA ce f2 eB | zf ed cB |1 AB cB A4 :|2 AB cB A4- | A8 ||
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2016, 10:53:11 PM »

Dominic Dominique is local to Embraud, but not a primary member of Chavannée. he wrote the tune in mid 1990s but didn't have a name for it. Bumbling home one evening through the "D" roads he saw a starling, moribund by the side of the road and named his tune in the dying bird's honour!

It uses the dorian #4 scale, a mode of harmonic minor (gurdies LOVE harmonic minor)', originally in D. Nowadays more commonly Am amongst the French melodeonista.  I taped it in St Chartier 1996 or so played by a 15+ gurdy band led by Patrick Bouffard. The dance floor was rocking and I was mesmerised, what an earworm! Basses can be awkward - ideally one person plays the tune, another the chording. Worth trying in Bm on a DG, and consider basses only rather than full chords on left hand as it isn't diatonic.
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2016, 07:36:12 AM »

E minor for me...

X:406
T:La Sansonette (from the playing of Claire Halliday)
C:Dominique Forges
R:scottiche
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:Em
B2|: B2  AB A2 GF | FA GF E4 | EF GA BA B2 | d2  c2 B3A |
B2 AB A2 GF | FA GF E4 | EF GA B2 AG | F2 F2 E2 EE :|
|: B2 GB cG Bc | B2 GB cG Bc | F3 B cF Bc | F3 B cF cB | B2 GB cG Bc |
B2 GB cG Bc | Bc BA GF |1 EF GF E4 :|2 EF GF E4- | E8 ||

Or maybe a nice low B minor...

X:406
T:La Sansonette (from the playing of Claire Halliday) C:Dominique Forges R:scottiche
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:Bm
F2|: F2  EF E2 DC | CE DC B,4 | B,C DE FE F2 | A2  G2 F3E |
F2 EF E2 DC | CE DC B,4 | B,C DE F2 ED | C2 C2 B,2 B,B, :|
|: F2 DF GD FG | F2 DF GD FG | C3 F GC FG | C3 F GC GF | F2 DF GD FG |
F2 DF GD FG | FG FE DC |1 B,C DC B,4 :|2 B,C DC B,4- | B,8 ||

« Last Edit: May 02, 2016, 07:41:14 AM by Bavarian Pete »
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2016, 09:40:26 AM »

I've just had a few emails with Dominique Forges (who wrote Sansonette), and he's looking to bring his duo (I think it's him singing and playing hurdy gurdys plus a guitarist) over to England for a tour in October (around 20th October to 2nd November). They are willing to put on concerts or Bals and are looking for venues (and fees).
They are working on a ball park figure of €400 plus VAT with acommodation and meals provided. I live in Hexham and there are a couple of venues there, but others amongst you will know better than I do what the norm is about payment - is it revenue generated on the door, or does someone else take that risk in order to put on the event. Doesn't have to be in Hexham or even in the north - any offers appreciated.
So - any suggestions I can pass on about helping them with their tour?
I appreciate this will need moving to another thread - just wanted to hit the Sansonette page.
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2016, 10:03:07 AM »

Brilliant idea. The french bal scene in Wirral has evaporated, but I'd love to attend a dance starring these two. Last saw him with the Paris brothers when they came here to Birkenhead Priory.

Been attacking the tune in Dm on my 3 row, and although the sharp 4 (that's Ab, folk get shot for playing those ;)) is a big feature in A music - like so many minor tunes things get "flexible" as to whether B or Bb is played in the upper part of scale.

The A music actually uses the whole Dm blues scale and no other notes! This is gurdy music and was written for the rhythmic drive of the wheel, and as a scottiche it also wants what Andy Cutting calls (and does so well) "a skip".

I cannot find Forges or Bouffard [ed: playing sansonnette] on youtube, but this young fella is more or less spot on

   http://youtu.be/kGuam3JVeqo

[ed2] Play'n'teach's Lâchez les chiens mass band version has something of what I heard in that square in 1996  :P
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2016, 10:57:13 AM »


I cannot find Forges or Bouffard on youtube,
Chris - It might be because you are looking for Dominic Forges? Try Dominique Forges - but here's a couple to get you going:
Website
Youtube

Dominique says that he'd reduce the prices if several events could be organised. I'm not looking to be a middle man here - just looking for people who are happy for me to pass on their email addresses if they might be able to help them.
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2016, 11:22:08 AM »

Hi PlayandTeach. Your post has brightened up this rainy morning. I want to support this, live in your area and will PM you soon. This could do with a separate thread. Can you do it? 
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2016, 11:45:29 AM »


I cannot find Forges or Bouffard on youtube,
Chris - It might be because you are looking for Dominic Forges? Try Dominique Forges - but here's a couple to get you going:

So it's Dominique? Not Dominic or Daniel as quoted on Tom Bom's Dm link. And Sansonette means a Starling? Just clarifying the facts before I settle down to learn it.
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2016, 12:11:55 PM »

and as a scottiche it also wants what Andy Cutting calls (and does so well) "a skip".

what woudl that be then, a "skip"?
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2016, 01:09:40 PM »

So it's Dominique? Not Dominic or Daniel as quoted on Tom Bom's Dm link. And Sansonette means a Starling? Just clarifying the facts before I settle down to learn it.

Sturnus vulgaris https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tourneau_sansonnet

what would that be then, a "skip"? W

In the dance springen … misschien huppelen? (break step with a little hop)
In the music - a little break of rhythm that informs that - but you can scottiche well enough!  ;)

Tyneside people - I can get to/ support a Dominique Forge dance, if one happens. My Mum lives up there :D
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2016, 04:59:50 PM »

The clacky box, (one of).

https://youtu.be/ZHlWg6LPQbE

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2016, 07:45:23 PM »

http://www.lacompagnieberot.com/cb_v2/images/cb/audio/Sansonnette2.mp3

Playandteach already linked to this page, but some might have missed the link to the mp3 of Sansonnette by Dominique Forges on the homepage of his site.
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2016, 10:25:13 PM »

Superb!
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2016, 09:25:43 AM »

I've just had a few emails with Dominique Forges (who wrote Sansonette), and he's looking to bring his duo (I think it's him singing and playing hurdy gurdys plus a guitarist) over to England for a tour in October (around 20th October to 2nd November).
So - any suggestions I can pass on about helping them with their tour?
I appreciate this will need moving to another thread - just wanted to hit the Sansonette page.

I opened a new post about this initiative on the News and Events Board . So far, it appears that there is only an interest in the North East!   
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2016: Sansonette
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2016, 11:46:53 AM »

I really love this tune and have had fun noodling around with it for the last few days. The 'A' is coming together nicely but the 'B' - well I just can't decide where I want to be with the basses. Naturally it feels like it should all be pretty much all on the pull but that's not really where I want to be. At the risk of promoting the dreaded thread drift (sorry Theo) dare I ask what others would suggest for the B music?  I should add that in accordance with Bailey's First Law of Female Melodeon Players I am playing this in Em using the ABC from Bavarian Pete.

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