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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #100 on: August 14, 2017, 02:37:40 PM »

Yes please Helena, then we've got Cherry, Maple and hopefully Walnut to drool over!
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #101 on: August 14, 2017, 03:02:25 PM »

Is anyone in a position to compare the Oakwood with the Cardin "English" model, as they seem to be aimed at the same market and priced in the same £3k+ bracket for a three voice box? As you can get a new Tommy for around £2,200 that does not seem the right comparison.
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #102 on: August 14, 2017, 04:39:45 PM »

Lilly's have even fewer bass chord reeds than that Steve!  4 in total per bass/chord pair.  Two tonic, onecthird, one fifth. Tommys may have an additional high tonic.
Yes I know. I thought that's what I was describing! See attached diagram.
I've never seen a Tommy with an additional high tonic though. Perhaps on the very earliest models?
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #103 on: August 14, 2017, 05:17:46 PM »

Oh I see what you meant.  It was the word additionally that threw me. Thought you meant an additional reed. I must read more carefully!
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #104 on: August 14, 2017, 05:23:07 PM »

Yes please Helena, then we've got Cherry, Maple and hopefully Walnut to drool over!
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Mine is / will be also in Walnut, not sure about the buttons. Not got it yet, am waiting for the call!
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #105 on: August 14, 2017, 05:42:48 PM »

Is anyone in a position to compare the Oakwood with the Cardin "English" model, as they seem to be aimed at the same market and priced in the same £3k+ bracket for a three voice box? As you can get a new Tommy for around £2,200 that does not seem the right comparison.

I've had a go on the Cairdin, if the one you're referencing is the box the Black Diamond guys have on offer. But I've only played the two voice Oakwood, unfortunately.

The Cairdin is very solid, and quite heavy. It feels really good, however. The sound of the reeds is a bit harsher than what I like, and I found I preferred it in its 2 voice setting, but it is indeed a very nice instrument. I'll see if I can snag a go on a three voice Oakwood sometime this year to see if I can compare them better :D

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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #106 on: August 14, 2017, 07:22:17 PM »

I tried the Cairdin a couple of years back when first brought to Sidmouth.
Tastes are very personal things but I really didn't like it, to me it felt a bit clunky, the buttons a bit plasticky and no where near as light a touch as the Oakwood.

The 3 voice Oakwood is just a little bit air hungry, as is my Tommy when I pull the stop to bring in the low reed. Anything with smaller bellows will be similar if trying to work a low reed. The 2 voice felt just great.
But other opinions may differ.
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #107 on: August 14, 2017, 09:13:47 PM »

The responsiveness and dynamic range were excellent, playable with the lightest of touches but pump it and it shouts.
All in all, a thing of beauty!

Especially in walnut with black buttons wouldn't you say?  ;D

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Funnily enough apart from some arty grille shots the only photos I have of it are photos from Sidmouth Sunday:  https://www.facebook.com/harrytaylorsmen/photos/a.1470939726558806.1073741826.1470785613240884/1866774380308670/?type=1&theatre

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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #108 on: August 15, 2017, 09:58:24 AM »

Any chance of a Soundcloud tune sometime?
Being really cheeky but want to remind myself what I sounds like, in comparison to my Tommy.
yours in hope!
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #109 on: August 15, 2017, 10:58:46 AM »

Just had an exchange of email with Alyson, Martyn is off to Italy today, then to Towersey, so it looks like my Oakwood (and I guess the others) will not appear until mid Sept.
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #110 on: August 16, 2017, 01:53:48 PM »

The original small Oakwoods did have feeble bass ends, particularly prone to choking and pulling flat when played hard.

After the design improvements I suggested to Martyn when he made mine (including 3 reed chords) this problem went away -- this became the Model 4 (23 treble 8 bass 2 voice).

I await with interest the chance to try the new Oakwood, to see if there's finally a box I prefer to mine ;-)

I initially had a long chat with Squeezy and we discussed the new boxes and those in the pipeline.
Martyn has some very innovative ideas for the 2.5 row and it sounds like he is now taking time out to develope those in order to build them into the new 2.5 row.
The 2 rows being a more traditional build, with modifications to improve the original model especially with respect to the originals weak basses. The new one has a good bass end!
As I understand it, orders are being taken for the 2 rows, but a new batch won't be started work on until the New Year.

Yes the Maple one was really a good looker, so if anyone's passing grab a picture for this thread!
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #111 on: August 16, 2017, 02:02:09 PM »

What I'd like to know is how the new Oakwood's differ in responsiveness and sound to the Oakwood-Baffetti Supers.
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #112 on: August 16, 2017, 02:20:11 PM »

What I'd like to know is how the new Oakwood's differ in responsiveness and sound to the Oakwood-Baffetti Supers.
I preferred the tone of the Super's treble (not just a tuning difference), and its  classic Baffetti bass sound was pleasingly "more obvious". The Oakwood's treble action was superbly feather light, the Super's slightly firmer.
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #113 on: August 16, 2017, 02:24:09 PM »

What I'd like to know is how the new Oakwood's differ in responsiveness and sound to the Oakwood-Baffetti Supers.
I preferred the tone of the Super's treble (not just a tuning difference), and its  classic Baffetti bass sound was pleasingly "more obvious". The Oakwood's treble action was superbly feather light, the Super's slightly firmer.

I played the new Oakwood prototype last November at Witney and my feelings about it are pretty much contrary to Sandy's!
I liked the new Oakwood's full but round sound; I've always found the DB Oakwood super boxes to be too shrill and shouty.
Agree that the new Oakwood action was very good indeed.

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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #114 on: August 16, 2017, 11:11:14 PM »

Has there been any news on the 2.5 row model from those who've been lucky enough to get to try the 2 rows, or talked to Martyn?

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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #115 on: August 17, 2017, 12:00:56 AM »

Hi Guy,

The 2.5 is honouring Oakwood tradition in taking longer than anticipated to appear!  My prototype signature model is going to be quite different from the regular Oakwood models in that it will have a flat keyboard of wooden construction, open with no grille, and the first set of reeds to trial in it will be Dix reeds.  I don't anticipate a playing prototype before the end of the summer.

Cheers

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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #116 on: August 17, 2017, 12:06:48 AM »

What I'd like to know is how the new Oakwood's differ in responsiveness and sound to the Oakwood-Baffetti Supers.
I preferred the tone of the Super's treble (not just a tuning difference), and its  classic Baffetti bass sound was pleasingly "more obvious". The Oakwood's treble action was superbly feather light, the Super's slightly firmer.

I played the new Oakwood prototype last November at Witney and my feelings about it are pretty much contrary to Sandy's!
I liked the new Oakwood's full but round sound; I've always found the DB Oakwood super boxes to be too shrill and shouty.
Agree that the new Oakwood action was very good indeed.

Yer pays yer money (oh yes! :Ph ) and takes yer choice.

Are you sure that's the Dino Oakwood Super you're talking about Steve, and not the Bincis (supers are walnut finish - bincis are cherry)?  Bincis are really what I'd call shouty ... but the supers are far more polite and refined.  If anything the new Oakwoods sit somewhere in between the two to my ear albeit with a far more responsive action.
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #117 on: August 17, 2017, 12:12:18 AM »

Are you sure that's the Dino Oakwood Super you're talking about Steve, and not the Bincis (supers are walnut finish - bincis are cherry)?  Bincis are really what I'd call shouty ...
Aha! Yes, you are right. I was thinking of the Bincis for shoutiness. I agree that the walnut Supers are mellower. Apologies for the confusion!  :|bl
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #118 on: August 17, 2017, 12:33:52 PM »

Hi Guy,

The 2.5 is honouring Oakwood tradition in taking longer than anticipated to appear!  My prototype signature model is going to be quite different from the regular Oakwood models in that it will have a flat keyboard of wooden construction, open with no grille, and the first set of reeds to trial in it will be Dix reeds.  I don't anticipate a playing prototype before the end of the summer.

Cheers

John

Thanks John, that's really helpful. I can't wait! I was never good at delayed gratification....

Cheers,
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Re: Oakwood
« Reply #119 on: August 17, 2017, 03:27:48 PM »

Hi Guy,

The 2.5 is honouring Oakwood tradition in taking longer than anticipated to appear!  My prototype signature model is going to be quite different from the regular Oakwood models in that it will have a flat keyboard of wooden construction, open with no grille, and the first set of reeds to trial in it will be Dix reeds.  I don't anticipate a playing prototype before the end of the summer.

Cheers

John

John, are you able to give us any more info at this stage? Specifically, I'm curious as to the number of buttons on the main rows (presumably 21 or 23) and half row.

Thanks, Dave
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