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[Theo]

You could have two M reeds tuned closer, and the third tuned further apart to get the sort of thing you want.  Usually (not always) the MM setting uses the M⁰ and the M⁺ reed banks.   If you then have the M^- reed bank tuned a lot flatter then the overall sound of MMM will be perceived as being flatter than MM.  This is true even with the three M reeds equally spaced, but the effect is magnified with your plan.  You cant make the M⁰ sharper to compensate because them the LM setting would be out of tune.   You could make L and M⁰ both sharp by the same amount but then all your coupler setting except MMM would be sharp. 

All the above assumes you (and your listeners) will be able to hear the difference.   But if you want a less tremolo MM setting I guess you are sensitive to small differences in tuning.   As with all tunings there are compromises and if you can live with the compromises then its ok.

[playandteach]

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[Mike-T]

Here's another very similar to John's original posting, picked up earlier this year.

Mike.

[Grape Ape]

Man! Not sure what happened, but I had this one http://m.ebay.de/itm/272476455801?_mwBanner=1 in the bag until the absolute last second when someone decided to bid 100€ over my max bid.  Obviously they wanted it more than me, but I have to laugh that they could have gotten it for much less.  There is no joy this day 😥

[John MacKenzie (Cugiok)]

I was bidding on that one too. Here's another one, in blue

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Hohner-Club-Ouverture-Morino-Diatonisch/332063517553?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38052%26meid%3D9a92b639d74f45c6a3e57d1c2743804b%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D272476455801

Sir John

[Grape Ape]

Yeah but only 2 registers.

[John MacKenzie (Cugiok)]

I was wondering about that. There is a little window with a lever in it on the back of the treble end, below the slide levers Now I thought at first that it was the bellows locking system, but the lever for that is on the bass end, above the air button. Although, interestingly enough, it also has bellows straps. So I am a bit confused.

Sir John

[Lester]

I was wondering about that. There is a little window with a lever in it on the back of the treble end, below the slide levers Now I thought at first that it was the bellows locking system, but the lever for that is on the bass end, above the air button. Although, interestingly enough, it also has bellows straps. So I am a bit confused.

Sir John

The lever in the window is the bellows lock lever, you can see the mechanism in the short of the inside of the treble end. Not sure what the button next the air button is though

[Theo]

Not sure what the button next the air button is though

It looks like a coupler to switch some of the bass reeds in/out.

Although, interestingly enough, it also has bellows straps. So I am a bit confused.

They are later additions, possibly a quick fix when the internal lock stopped working.

[Mike-T]

the switch by the air button on mine takes out 3rds

Mike

[Łukasz Potoczny]

There is another significant difference ... the Club 10 generally has the amazing 235/Morino aluminium reeds ... with the words 'Hohner' and 'Germany' stamped on each individual reedplate.

These reeds have a unique and glorious sound... and I speak as someone who adores the H-stamped zince reedplates of that era. I have used these reeds on several occasions and I am currently finishing an Erika 2.4 row that has been fitted with these 235/Morino reeds.

Mike R

100% true. I came across a Club X last year, bought it mainly because of the additional L voice. Just 2 months earlier I got myself my first box - Club III BF - which is very nice in it's own way, so I was thinking "what will I do with another box with the same tuning?". Now I treat the Club X it as my main instrument. Reeds are indeed excellent, the only reason I'm not squeezing it right now is because it's being tuned. :)
Mine is a bit discolored, mostly the top and front, otherwise in really nice condition - clean mechanism, no rust on the reeds etc. I don't think it was played much since 1938. :) I adjusted the action with some felt strips and reconfigured the basses (it has a bass machine, sort of like simpler version of stradella bass, so I didn't retune anything, just tweaked some rods and levers) to obtain Cm, Gm, Am and Em in place of redundant (for me at least) seventh chords on additional bass buttons. It's a really great box and the bonus basses gave me some more freedom in key-choice.

Now I intend to declub and dutch-reverse it. I would like to preserve all the original reeds, so I'm looking for a donor with a few reeds of the similar age and make. Does anybody know about a Hohner reed supply from that time?

[Microbot]

Hi Lukasz,

I'd be happy to help if I can. I finished the D/G Erika conversion a few weeks ago and it sounded fabulous ... the instrument is now with its new owner.

Since I've done several of these conversions/installations in Erikas - (two into D/G, and one each into Bb/Eb and C/F) I've got quite a few reeds left over. The question is ... what exactly do you need in terms of notes, and also in which octaves? The Dutch reversal should be a simply reed-flip, but the declubbing could well require new reeds - and yes you want these to be the same type of course. Working with these reeds, you find they are VERY long-scale and they don;t respond well to being 'tuned up' by a semitone let alone a full tone (... apart from the lower set and lowest end of the Mid-set).

For re-pitching/declubbing, if you have a C/F with a CC Gleichton, and you therefore want a C/D, you are better of using a C#/D# reed and tuning down with solder ... you don't lose the tone...

or is it Bb/Eb? And I'm assuming it is LMM?? The low CC should tune up to C/D with no trouble...

let me know... I'll have a rummage.

cheers

Mike R

[Łukasz Potoczny]

Mike, thank you so much for your reply.
I will write you a PM not to flood the discussion with offtop matter.

Thanks!

[John MacKenzie (Cugiok)]

There is/was a nice Club X on EBay that I was bidding for, but another model that I want more has come up, so I am bidding on that instead.


Sir John

[hickory-wind]

:)

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