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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2017, 10:50:56 PM »

The mandolin was my first Music Room instrument. It is still a fine thing twenty odd years later. They sold me my first box too, although I no longer have that. I can only recall one tea and melodeon afternoon. I was not really sure what I wanted at the time and probably could not have afforded it if I was but that, of course, was not a problem for these guys. Since I've been at a "relatively safe" distance I know I have mail ordered various bits and pieces and often wished I could drop by again sometime but somehow feel that I could have supported them a bit more. Does that make any sense? They sent out a few emails and I must confess to having been tempted by some of the clearance offers, including one of their iconic box bags (wee bit on the big side for the Club III but not outrageously so). I forwarded the bouzouki offers to a friend who was after one. I hope that was helping and not taking advantage.
I am sorry to see them go and will always be grateful for the instruments and things, the tea and the advice and friendliness. I wish everybody concerned all the very best.
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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2017, 05:49:47 PM »

So what will happen to Sandpiper? Presumably there is a factory/workshop in China that has been set up to produce these. What happens to  the "infrastructure" created to produce Sandpipers? It would be a shame for this to be lost. Anybody else willing to step up & distribute Sandpiper?
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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2017, 06:09:05 PM »

So what will happen to Sandpiper? Presumably there is a factory/workshop in China that has been set up to produce these. What happens to  the "infrastructure" created to produce Sandpipers? It would be a shame for this to be lost. Anybody else willing to step up & distribute Sandpiper?

I might be wrong but at Witney I got the impression that Martyn Banks was going to continue to distribute these alongside making the brand new Oakwood melodeons. 
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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2017, 10:14:32 PM »

So what will happen to Sandpiper? Presumably there is a factory/workshop in China that has been set up to produce these. What happens to  the "infrastructure" created to produce Sandpipers? It would be a shame for this to be lost. Anybody else willing to step up & distribute Sandpiper?

I might be wrong but at Witney I got the impression that Martyn Banks was going to continue to distribute these alongside making the brand new Oakwood melodeons.
That was my understanding too, Helena.
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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2017, 01:01:09 AM »

I would not be at all surprised if these came off the same conveyer belt as the Sandpiper

https://www.hobgoblin.com/local/sales/products/GR42054/sherwood-shire-ii-dg-melodeon-cagnoni-reeds/

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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2017, 02:52:44 AM »

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I would not be at all surprised if these came off the same conveyer belt as the Sandpiper

I wondered that too. Made in the same factory? Made to the same specifications? Same quality control?  I am very impressed with my Sandpiper - great quality for the price IMO. As I understand, it Hohner is discontinuing the Morgane line, which would seem to leave leave a significant space for a inexpensive Chinese-manufactured natural wood styled melodeon.
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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2018, 04:49:01 PM »

"compare:
https://www.hobgoblin.com/local/sales/products/GR42054/sherwood-shire-ii-dg-melodeon-cagnoni-reeds/
and:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/High-Grade-23K8B-Diatonic-Wood-Button_60601893512.html?spm=a2700.7724857.2017115.218.6b8c60773MwQXN

Scarlatti?
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/31button-12bass-diatonic-button-accordion_857708789.html?spm=a2700.7724857.2017115.211.6b8c60773MwQXN"

I know that I'm thick; but what are we comparing here? The fact that both these instruments have Cagnoni reeds but wildly different prices?
And the Scarlatti? The Chinese will put anyone's name on their produce as long as you buy a certain number, there are loads of the self-same instruments with differing names on them. 
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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #49 on: February 15, 2018, 08:27:04 AM »

First two are identical except different keyboard and most expensive part - label "Sherwood".
It seems they comes from the same factory.
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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2018, 09:46:01 AM »

And......different grille. And......one has a treble end stop.
We could say that many older instruments also look identical, except for this or that; I've seen many which seemed to be replicas of Hohners, apart from very slight differences in appearance.

Mind you, I see your point about the prices being vastly different. "Buyer beware" is the old adage that we should all take to heart. But we should also bear in mind that a retailer has to source the instruments, actually pay for a minimum number, import them, stock them safely, advertise them, check them out before sale and give some degree of warranty. And all that whilst hoping that his investment eventually pays off!
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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2018, 10:35:55 AM »

It's more like the Sherwood III

It would be interesting to know how the mark up breaks down.

The wholesale price works out at about £212.
Then there is delivery to the supplier.
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They have been described as good value on this site so there may be some pre-sale fettling.
Business running costs and overheads.
Costs incurred as a result of  the franchising nature of the business.
Delivery to the customer, which is (at the moment) free.
Other costs?

Then there is the retailers profit.

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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2018, 10:39:37 AM »

Import taxes, and VAT

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Re: The Music Room - Closing down
« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2018, 02:43:19 PM »

And, to reiterate, this cost is based on buying ten units. So you need to be sure of selling them all.
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