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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2017, 07:59:30 PM »

Mine is always left on the dressing table in our bedroom.
 I acquired another skill, on a small sewing machine,when I made a nice dust cover for it.
 The hard case is wrapped up in the garage until holiday season.

I'd need a BIG dressing table to fit all 13 on top........
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Isn't 13 considered unlucky. I think you need another.
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2017, 10:20:11 PM »

I have my melodeon in the sofa. I have to move it to sit down and watch TV.
There is also a guitar and an ukulele.
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2017, 12:17:00 AM »

Yes, pianos are really designed for musicians to put their drinks on.
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2017, 12:18:29 PM »

Avoid aircraft hold transport if possible. But if you must, make sure the melodeon is securely padded inside the hard case with bubble-wrap, expanded polystyrene, etc. to ensure that it doesn't move about inside the case. Aircraft baggage handlers are not renowned for their gentleness in chucking stuff around. Also, if you can, lock the clasps so they don't get accidentally caught and inadvertently opened. Failing that, stick duct-tape patches over the clasps.

Thanks for the excellent advice about transport by air. I can't imagine when I would need that as we drive to the alps to ski and then we spend our summers going round Folk Festivals in our caravan. There's always room in the car or 'van for my Lady in her gig bag.
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2017, 03:03:34 PM »

Probably a good idea to keep them in their cases, but don't fasten the bellows straps.
The straps should only be used for unboxed travelling.
I'll probably be shot down for this but I do think that's correct.

Cobblers. I've never heard such nonsense. It is a good thing to keep the bellows compressed.  It makes the bellows easier to close fully when you are playing.  Nothing worse than encountering resistance in the last bit of bellows movement.  With older instruments it will make little difference.

I've just nipped upstairs and fixed all the straps on my boxes.😎 Mind you for me to nip anywhere is bordering on ridiculous . Thanks for the advice gang.

What are bellows straps for anyway?  To prevent the bellows opening when you don't want them to – taking the instrument out of it's case is the one time when you do want the bellows to under control.

I always keep the various melodeons in their boxes until it's their turn to be played. No dusting, and I havent got shelf space anyway. But I do wonder if there are disadvantages to this - maybe more chance of rusty reeds ? Views and comments ?

Avoid extremes of temperature, avoid dampness and also avoid very low humidity, and avoid excessive dust.   Stick to those simple guidelines and your melodeon will be happy, and so will you. I can't see any reason why storing in a closed case would lead to rusty reeds, unless you put it away damp.  So don't let it get damp in the first place.

I hope we can squash these two pointless myths before they get out out.
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2017, 06:27:29 AM »

Never EVER use hold transport. I've said this before but watching a Ryanair load at Liverpool I counted 1 in 20 bags tossed onto the conveyer bounce, and then fall about 1.8m onto the concrete. Add unseen in terminal ballistics, and a 2 way journey and you are looking at 12-15% of your box getting accident level sudden deceleration on a trip

Similarly in Copenhagen I WATCHED Scandanavian Air's unloader throwing cases something over 2.5m into a recepticle. This guy was a much better shot, and never missed, but … reeds in wax aren't designed to take this sort of sudden force.

I travel with a van der Aa compact (3 row). In a gig bag it fits even Ryanair's litle cage. I calculated that my full size Gaillard would have to be dismenbered, box bits on my shoulders, bellows in suitcase in hold. But are we off topic in this?

A Mexican friend told me that melodeons should be stored on their legs (right end), never on their sides, that otherwise wax will creep, reeds will move.  Not noticed this in 30 years m'self. Is there any truth ….even 'alternative truth' in this?
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2017, 09:54:15 AM »

...Add unseen in terminal ballistics...

The company I used to work for was involved in building a new terminal at Manchester Airport and I was taken on a "behind the scenes" tour before it opened.  The baggage-handling area was a maze of conveyors which delivered the luggage down some high and very steep chutes, and it arrived at the bottom with a considerable impact. Having seen what happens to your luggage by design, before the handlers get stuck in, I would never put anything breakable in hold luggage.

I was once at the same airport waiting for my luggage when I noticed a battered cardboard box going round on the carousel.  Despite being labelled "Fragile" in large letters it was upside down and looked as if it had been given a good kicking. Just as it had disappeared out of sight I heard a voice behind me say, "Don't worry darling, it's marked 'Fragile'".
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2017, 05:11:37 PM »

A Mexican friend told me that melodeons should be stored on their legs (right end), never on their sides, that otherwise wax will creep, reeds will move.  Not noticed this in 30 years m'self. Is there any truth ….even 'alternative truth' in this?

Not heard this about melodeons in the years I've been playing but I have heard something similar about proper concertinas (ie not accordian reeds) where the concertina should be stored in the same orientation it is played in. 

Is this another Urban Myth Theo?
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2017, 05:18:25 PM »

Concertina valves do set into a curled position if stored on one end for long periods.  The equivalent for a melodeon would be laying it on its back.  I've seen no evidence of wax creep from incorrect storage position in the climate we have in the UK.   Mexico might be different.  Wherever you are its best just to play the thing and not get too preoccupied with minute details of storage.
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2017, 08:05:31 PM »

I gave in and have garage racking in the lounge to hold the 20+ melodeons.......trouble is so many are played and left on the floor and the racking is empty....!
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2017, 07:15:15 PM »

As a single box kind of guy, I got a little "Fishman Loudbox Artist Slip Cover" to enable the thing to sit covered in the living room and taunt me whenever I'm watching the worthless box that makes sounds when turned on.  It's sits right there in front of me in my chair and continues to remind me that it does not care to be ignored.
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2017, 09:33:42 AM »

Unfortunately if you play gigs abroad with more than one box needed then the NEVER EVER use the aircraft hold is an impossible rule to follow.  I have had one pokerwork almost completely smashed up by EasyJet but because it was the cheapest box I had with me it was also in the cheapest case.  I have never had a box damaged in a proper case made of resin bonded birch plywood with decent aluminium fittings.  I don't use bubble-wrap and foam inside the case but instead I remove the reedblocks, wrap them up and take separately in the suitcase, stuff the instrument full of my pants and socks for the trip and then wrap the melodeon in larger clothes like T-shirts and jumpers until it cannot move in the flight case.

I'm not saying it's impossible to have your instrument broken this way - but a regular melodeon case that comes with the instrument is certainly not good enough for the job.
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2017, 12:07:47 PM »

Unfortunately if you play gigs abroad with more than one box needed then the NEVER EVER use the aircraft hold is an impossible rule to follow.  I have had one pokerwork almost completely smashed up by EasyJet but because it was the cheapest box I had with me it was also in the cheapest case.  I have never had a box damaged in a proper case made of resin bonded birch plywood with decent aluminium fittings.  I don't use bubble-wrap and foam inside the case but instead I remove the reedblocks, wrap them up and take separately in the suitcase, stuff the instrument full of my pants and socks for the trip and then wrap the melodeon in larger clothes like T-shirts and jumpers until it cannot move in the flight case.

I'm not saying it's impossible to have your instrument broken this way - but a regular melodeon case that comes with the instrument is certainly not good enough for the job.

Excellent advice. Presumably the dirty clothes get squeezed inside the instrument on return ? >:E
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Re: Storing the melodeons
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2017, 02:21:29 PM »

Well ... yes ... but you can put them in a plastic bag first if you're squeamish about it I suppose!
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