Topic: Mr. Cutting's 'Origin of the World' (Read 4346 times)

Thrupenny Bit · « **on:** July 23, 2017, 10:47:43 AM »

( though it might be written by Dave Sheppard....)

Anyway, just discovered this version on YouTube when looking for something else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Nex0PCjPc

It's just stirred it up in my mind again having previously given up because I can't lock into the tune at all.
He's using his trusty DG Mory, though I'm wondering what key he's got it in.
Perhaps he's just using the L reed on the treble side?, it really baffles me!
Has anyone got any notation or dots for something achievable on a 2 row DG?
Q
going for a walk to clear the brain....

Peter Savage · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2017, 11:01:12 AM »

I think he is playing it in G-minor, approximately as notated on the session: https://thesession.org/tunes/8237

squeezy · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2017, 11:05:59 AM »

It's in G minor and looking at his fingering that is a Mory in C/F. He's playing it on the full 3 voice setting LMM.

It is by Dave Shepherd ... and you can find notation here http://abcnotation.com/tunePage?a=thesession.org/tunes/8237.no-ext/0001

If you want to play it on a D/G then transposing to A minor would directly mirror Andy's fingering although transposing to E minor would be a little easier to play as the A minor fingering would need the use of accidental buttons to get the F naturals.

Thrupenny Bit · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2017, 11:55:23 AM »

Ah... a *CF* Mory, I'd forgotten he had that beast. It might account for my confusion as to why I couldn't lock my ear into it using roughly the same fingering!
Yes, I'd transposed it into Am but then it goes pear shaped with lots of naturals and in Em the tune drops off my low G keyboard.
Might have to put it to one side as a 2 row DG project and just...enjoy it.

Thanks Pete and Squeezy for the info., possibly a tune too far
cheers
Q

Jack Campin · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2017, 12:49:24 PM »

I presume the title is an allusion to this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Origine_du_monde

Since the model was Irish, does that make it an honorary Irish tune? You could put it in a set with "Comb Your Hair and Curl It".

[Edit: it's a pretty nice fit to the range of an alto recorder].

Thrupenny Bit · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2017, 01:21:09 PM »

There was me thinking it had more archaeological origins

Just find it a thoughtful piece of music, that's all!
Q

Peter Savage · « **Reply #6 on:** July 23, 2017, 02:14:32 PM »

Quote from: Thrupenny Bit on July 23, 2017, 11:55:23 AM

Thanks Pete and Squeezy for the info., possibly a tune too far
cheers
Q

Thanks for posting the link Q. It wasn't a tune I was familiar with but I rather like it and will have a go at learning it in A-minor.

Thrupenny Bit · « **Reply #7 on:** July 23, 2017, 02:23:46 PM »

Ah glad you like it Pete.
It's one of those tunes I've liked for years but never got to grips with. The previous posts might explain why!
Q

Peter Savage · « **Reply #8 on:** July 23, 2017, 03:27:55 PM »

What about this version Q: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M95cuhjKtA

The excellent Paul Young playing it on a Pokerwork in B-minor

squeezy · « **Reply #9 on:** July 23, 2017, 03:35:05 PM »

I hadn't thought about B minor ... that fits a 2 row D/G box really well. I was thinking about E minor in the higher octave which would be a bit squeaky!

Peter Savage · « **Reply #10 on:** July 23, 2017, 03:39:51 PM »

Julian S · « **Reply #11 on:** July 23, 2017, 03:50:28 PM »

Yep, Bm - just the job. Yet another tune to perfect...

J

Thrupenny Bit · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2017, 03:55:07 PM »

Pete - a master stroke!
Your email came in whilst I was thinking about or seeing if it was possible to tweak the Em version to 'get me on the keyboard'.
Squeezy - hadn't got that far, but as a 3 voice Hascy owner bunging it up the squeaky end and using the L reed is always possible.

....but in Bm on a Pokerwork - excellent!
Thanks for helping me brainstorm this. Have just transposed my version into Bm using abcexplorer as Pete kindly popped one up as well.
Right, off with a cuppa and a newly transposed tune!
thanks all, really pleased at obtaining an achievable version!
cheers
Q

ps Julian..... perfect?
I'd cope with getting roughly close!

Jack Campin · « **Reply #13 on:** July 23, 2017, 04:23:32 PM »

Ouch. Doable in B minor on a C melody sax if I ever get my teeth fixed enough to play it again...

Julian S · « **Reply #14 on:** July 23, 2017, 04:25:52 PM »

Yes Q, perfect is something I will never achieve...

I have it on excellent authority that I can manage 'recognisable' on one tune at least, composed by a certain esteemed musician...
I suppose I could always learn triangle - or maybe banjo

J

Thrupenny Bit · « **Reply #15 on:** July 23, 2017, 05:04:05 PM »

Banjo..... Oer, that is getting on shaky territory.
What about tambourine?
'Recognisable' is good! What you really are doing is giving *your* version of said tune

Keep plugging away...
Q

Thrupenny Bit · « **Reply #16 on:** July 24, 2017, 11:43:56 AM »

more of a ps really....
I keep looking at the video from Paul Young and find it lovely and 'clean' playing, with a lovely gentle lilt to it.
Thanks Pete, it really is a great find, and looking at the date posted, is after I'd done several internet trawls a while back hence me missing it.
I wonder if he's 'of this parish'?
Right.....back for another go!
Q

Theo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 24, 2017, 11:58:25 AM »

Yes Paul is a member here, and is on our teachers list, so if you ask him he might teach it to you.

Thrupenny Bit · « **Reply #18 on:** July 24, 2017, 12:05:03 PM »

Hah! Thanks Theo. Good to know he's here.
To be fair to him, his video is so clear, it's all there ready to learn!
Just need to get on with it...
cheers
Q

Steve_freereeder · « **Reply #19 on:** July 24, 2017, 05:27:27 PM »

At risk of continuing the thread drift, I just want to emphasise more what a great key B minor is on a D/G box. It usually sits nicely in the middle of the keyboard without being too low or too squeaky. The fingering patterns/bellows changes are slightly non-intuitive at first but it soon comes with a bit of practice.

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