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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2017, 10:55:37 PM »

Playing the A and B parts of 'King of the Fairies' together sounds OK, with some slight adjustments. I've attached the dots.

I like playing an improvised countermelody to Playford tunes when the one tune is being played for a dance (probably what players did back in their day anyway), but I haven't written any down. Hole In The Wall and The Black Nag come to mind.
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2017, 10:42:00 AM »

Playing the A and B parts of 'King of the Fairies' together sounds OK, with some slight adjustments. I've attached the dots.

I like playing an improvised countermelody to Playford tunes when the one tune is being played for a dance (probably what players did back in their day anyway), but I haven't written any down. Hole In The Wall and The Black Nag come to mind.

I believe improvising  "the parts" was an essential skill of the time.
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2017, 11:34:51 AM »

Here's one of my favourite pieces, Windy Gyle by Alistair Anderson. Named after a hill in Northumberland this is in fact two tunes, a 6/8 slow air in two voices and a very fast 9/8 slip jig which sits over the top making a very pretty piece. I'll link to PDFs and performances a little later but in the meantime here are the ABCs in the original key of A but I have it in G too if anyone wants it:

X:1
T:Windy Gyle 6/8 Slow Air
C:Alistair Anderson
Z:Peter Dunk. December 2008
M:6/8
L:1/16
%%barnumbers 1
Q:1/4=60
K:A
V:1
|:c3BA2 e4 E2 | B6-B6 | d6 c3BA2 | B e-e4 c6 |
c3BA2 e4 d2 | B6 E3AB2 | c3BA2 Bd3B2 | A6-A6 |
E4 B2 B3cd2 | e4 A2 d6 | c3BA2 e4 E2 | B6-B6 |
E4 c2 c3BA2 | B e-e4 d6-|d3 e d2 c3BA2 | Be3E2 A6 :|
V:2
|:E3DC2 A,4C2 | B,4 E2 G3FG2 | A6 A3EC2 | D G-G4 E6 |
C3DE2 G4 F2 |E6 G3FG2 | A4 C2 DG3E2 | C6 E3DC2 |
B,4 E2 E3DB,2 | A,4 E2 F6 | E3DC2 A,4 C2 | B,6 E3FG2 |
A4 E2 C4 D2 | E G-G4 F6-|F3 G F2 E3DC2 |DG3E2 [E6C6]:|

X:2
T:Windy Gyle 9/8 Slip Jig
T:Two bars of 9/8 to one bar of 6/8 slow air
C:Alistair Anderson
Z:Peter Dunk December 2008
R:Jig
M:9/8
L:1/8
%%barnumbers 1
Q:1/4=240
K:A
|:cBA e2 G A3 |cBA A2 cB2 G | EFE G2 A B3 | GAB B2 d c2 e |
fed a2 d A2 d | edc a2 c A2 c | BAG e2 B E2 G | ABc ecB A3 |
cBA e2 G A3 | cBA A2 c B2 G | EFE G2 A B3 | eBG E2 F G2 B |
Ace abg a3 |bge d2 B G2 B | cde A2 c e2 g | aec dBG A3 |
BcB e2 B G2 B | E2 FGAB d2 f | efe a2 e c2 a | f2 e def B2 d |
efg agb a3 | agb a2 e dBG | E2 G BcA B3 | EFG Bcd fed |
cBA e2 G A3 |cBA A2 cB2 G | EFE G2 A B2 c | d2 e fed a2 g |
 fed a2 d A2 d | edc a2 c A2 c | BAG e2 B E2 G | ABc ecB A3 :|
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2017, 03:34:57 PM »

PDFs of Windy Gyle in A and G. I'm trying to figure out to share an mp3 without it being downloadable . . .

Windy Gyle
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2017, 04:57:46 PM »

The only way I could find to share an mp3 of Windy Gyle was to edit the file and chop chunks of it out, this allows you to hear how the piece builds up. Slow air on cello, fiddle plays countermelody second time through. Slip jig on fiddles, flute joins in. Slip jig with slow air on cello, slow air countermelody joins in and then all together for the big finish.

Windy Gyle in bits

The Syncopace CD with Windy Gyle on it is available from Alistair's website, highly recommended!

Two Syncopace tracks to listen to on Alistair's Soundcloud page.
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2017, 08:14:27 PM »

Here's a countermelody to Bonny at Morn.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2017, 09:09:21 PM by playandteach »
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2017, 09:01:49 PM »

Here's a countermelody to Bonny at Morn.

Thanks Pete - I shall try that tomorrow with my concertina friend !
I like that tune - here's a lovely version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9LIEYT9LzA
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2017, 09:08:11 PM »

Just noticed a typo in bar 20 - the countermelody note should be a third lower (in GC talk that's a G rather than a B) I'll replace the files. Files in previous post now corrected.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2017, 09:09:56 PM by playandteach »
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2017, 09:13:55 PM »

By the way, Arty I only hear these countermelodies combined with the original in my head. I'd love to hear a quick recording of anything you come up with.
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2017, 09:50:43 PM »

PDFs of Windy Gyle in A and G. I'm trying to figure out to share an mp3 without it being downloadable . . .

Windy Gyle

Put it on youtube and post a link to it. You need to put it into a video first.
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2017, 06:21:36 PM »

Adieu Ma Dedee
Mon Amant de St Jean

I and my friend the concertina player, started playing Mon Amant de St. Jean this afternoon. It is sounding very, very nice indeed!
Did you write the contrechant Pete?
It is fun to play and, unlike some tunes, the harmony line is just as interesting to play as the tune.
When we have smoothed out all the wrinkles, we'll do a recording for you.
 
We will do Adieu ma Dedee as well but I have been putting it off, as your version is slightly different to what I learnt previously. It is always hard to unlearn things.
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2017, 07:58:13 PM »

Thanks, Arty. Yes I did write it. It's an exercise to write - instead of a harmony line - a separate tune that will function either as a variation or as harmony line. It's surprisingly easy to write either, but not at all easy to write one which will do both jobs. Glad you like it.
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Re: Tunes with Countermelodies or which have parts which work together
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2017, 08:41:05 PM »

Shepherds Hey - Keel Row
B part of Not for Joe and the Keel Row
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