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Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« on: October 01, 2017, 03:13:41 PM »

Hi all - this months theme, keeping things nice and generic is Irish music, in all of its many flavourings.

As ever, here's a few suggestions:

- Previous (a long time ago) TOTM winner, Planxty Irwin, a famous O'Carolan tune -
 you can find many versions of it here: http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,9165.40.html including the lovely Martin Ellison's lovely version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSQQHM9vw3E

- John Ryan's polka, here ably played by Pikey, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzx-CTdf5r0 - a session standard if ever there was one

- and for something a little less well known on box, Sean Ryan's jig, played by a certain Mr Martin Hayes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9vlmAYw0a8

Happy playing folks; off to learn that 3rd one now....

Cheers,

Clive

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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2017, 03:45:07 PM »

Thanks Clive !

Here's an Irish Polka that we call Fish and Taters , learned of a bloke who learnt it in the 1960s from the Rakes in London .  I usually play it as the third tune in a set with Tralee Gaol and Maggie in the Wood

https://youtu.be/baFbo9xu_5s

Here are the other two !

https://youtu.be/DYVhSkaqz6U
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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2017, 03:49:03 PM »

Here are some more Irish polkas , from Clare , learned from Jackie Daly .
Played on the Bb/Eb Geipel when it was wheezy , before Theo worked his magic on it ( other tuners are available .... )  ;)

https://youtu.be/FnF0zWVQDq4
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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2017, 11:23:35 AM »

https://youtu.be/aEEKMCJIaew

Two Reels. Finneys is a working title as the tune was taught to Chris Dove by Finney, and neither know whether it has a 'real' name. (Let us know if you think it has). It came as 24 bars, so doubling on the A pulled it up to 32, and while repetitive seems to jog along nicely. Ships are Sailing is a standard from the 'to do' pile and seems to fit.

All the best from Suffolk

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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2017, 11:41:06 AM »

https://youtu.be/aEEKMCJIaew

Two Reels. Finneys is a working title as the tune was taught to Chris Dove by Finney, and neither know whether it has a 'real' name. (Let us know if you think it has). It came as 24 bars, so doubling on the A pulled it up to 32, and while repetitive seems to jog along nicely. Ships are Sailing is a standard from the 'to do' pile and seems to fit.

All the best from Suffolk

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Good stuff Bill. And proof that Irish tunes don't need a B/C or similar to sound really good.
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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2017, 12:39:35 PM »

Finneys is a working title as the tune was taught to Chris Dove by Finney, and neither know whether it has a 'real' name. (Let us know if you think it has).

Called Colonel McBain, among other names. Good tune!

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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2017, 02:16:38 PM »

Here are some more Irish polkas , from Clare , learned from Jackie Daly .
Played on the Bb/Eb Geipel when it was wheezy , before Theo worked his magic on it ( other tuners are available .... )  ;)

https://youtu.be/FnF0zWVQDq4

Hi Pikey, Nice tunes! However, they're not from Clare, they're from Jackie's home area of north Cork, and the second two are sometimes referred to after a town in the area - as the Newmarket Polkas - but then so are some other tunes! The first one I think sometimes goes under the name of Sullivan's if you haven't got anything else with that name. I admire you for having a go at the last one, I've tried it on a couple of different boxes but always seem to run out of air, specially if I put the basses in. I like to play the final A on the G row pull to get the A bass - well whatever the equivalent is on an Bb/Eb. I play the first two tunes and have the middle one in what I think is a really nice set, but I've never yet braved the challenge of the technology needed to put a film up on here. I might get round to it before the month is out though!  (:)
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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2017, 03:08:10 PM »




"Called Colonel McBain, among other names. Good tune!"


Thanks Stiamh, I think we might just add Finney's to the list! Thanks also Ellisteph for your +ve response :-)

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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2017, 03:18:42 PM »

Thanks Stiamh, I think we might just add Finney's to the list!

Why not put "Uncle Tom Cobley's" in while you're at it...  ;)

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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2017, 03:38:28 PM »

Feel I ought to contribute something to this theme at least but have no camera to do filming at present, so forgive me for adding this - it's an old tutorial video but I play through the tune 3 times at the start. The Ballintore Fancy (John Fleming's Jig).

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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2017, 11:03:45 PM »

Here's a short recording of Miss McLeod's Reel I did when a friend introduced me to the garageband software. Still haven't worked out how to use the software, but I'll try to record some Irish tunes on video later on.

BTW (before someone else raises it) Miss McLeod's is a well-known Scottish tune that has become a standard amongst Irish players. Good tunes travel well.
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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2017, 07:03:35 AM »

A favorite of mine, learned from the fiddling of Randal Bays. This is a composition of 17th century Irish harper Thomas Connellan, entitled "Molly St. George". I also added a bit of guitar.

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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2017, 02:19:53 PM »

I don't have a huge number of Irish tunes in my repertoire, but this is one I learnt many years ago from Neil Brookes. Neil learnt it from the Irish players that frequented the Exiles of Erin pub in the early 1970's. The pub is no longer there I'm afraid. The Kilfenora jig:


https://youtu.be/w1_i6UICAlo


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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2017, 03:56:06 PM »

Good tunes everyone. I liked Ian's Miss McLeod - very Connemara treatment.  (:) Molly St George is a beautiful and wonderfully meandering sort of air. And the Kilfenora Jig is a classic that seems to have fallen out of fashion and should be heard more often. Keep them coming...

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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2017, 04:03:55 PM »

Stiamh
As a resident expert here, could you recommend a couple of tunes to learn? I've looked at quite a few, but so many have contradictory provenance - some claim to be Irish but others say they're Scottish... etc.
I'd be keen to be pointed in a securely Irish direction.
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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2017, 04:09:08 PM »

Blimey, no. Expert - not, a one-eyed man at best (:)

What do you want to tackle? A jig, a reel, a hornpipe, a march, a polka, a slide, a "piece"? What keys do you like to play in? Quart-box players might be better placed to make suggestions, but if you can narrow it down a bit I'll have a go.

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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2017, 05:41:49 PM »

Stiamh
As a resident expert here, could you recommend a couple of tunes to learn? I've looked at quite a few, but so many have contradictory provenance - some claim to be Irish but others say they're Scottish... etc.
I'd be keen to be pointed in a securely Irish direction.


Many tunes have been absorbed into the Irish tradition from other countries, not just from the UK, but they can still be played as Irish music. Don't mix 'tunes' up with 'music', it is more to do with the style of how the tunes are produced/ /played.
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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2017, 05:55:56 PM »

Blimey, no. Expert - not, a one-eyed man at best (:)

What do you want to tackle? A jig, a reel, a hornpipe, a march, a polka, a slide, a "piece"? What keys do you like to play in? Quart-box players might be better placed to make suggestions, but if you can narrow it down a bit I'll have a go.
Let's go with a reel or slip jig. Usual keys for a DG box. Ideally something that might come up at a session.
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Re: Tune and Theme of the Month for October 2017: Irish Music
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2017, 06:13:19 PM »

Far from Home in G, is a good one on a DG box.

http://abcnotation.com/tunePage?a=trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Contra/KC/reel/FarFromHome_G/0000

I'd second that. But for the C#/D experience, play it on the D row. (:)

Edit to add: PS playing it on the D row will keep your fingers off those bass buttons so you can concentrate on making the melody flow à l'irlandaise...
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