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Migration to new forum software
« on: November 19, 2019, 04:49:33 PM »

Hi everyone,

I know that there has been discussion about this before but I wanted to bring up the topic again.

Are there any plans to migrate our beloved forum to some newer platform?

Good reasons to do so:
- HTTPS encryption (forum is handling login data and personal messages after all)
- no more cookie problems (you know, those lovely errors most of us get on an irregular basis)
- hopefully better search functionality

Webmasters and admins, what do you think?

Best wishes
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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2019, 05:07:10 PM »

I understand your concerns, but it has to be said that I have never had any problems with this forum. I find it robust and dependable. Unlike other forums I do not have to jump through hoops to get to work. I am a cautious internet user. Some forums are incontinent - dropping  their sh*t with scant regard for cleanliness. In my experience, this forum does not. If it aint broke don't try to fix it.
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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2019, 06:23:29 PM »

I don’t remember any technical problems for me using this forum.

Nevertheless reading it on the small screen of a smartphone is not exactly pleasing. (I do think SMF has a module or something to help with this a bit, but I’m not sure.)

Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t HTTPS a different thing and independent from the forum software?

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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2019, 06:53:58 PM »

I've never had any issues here either; it works smoothly and seamlessly on all three devices I use to access it. As Mike said, if it ain't broke........

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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2019, 07:10:53 PM »

I don’t remember any technical problems for me using this forum.

Nevertheless reading it on the small screen of a smartphone is not exactly pleasing. (I do think SMF has a module or something to help with this a bit, but I’m not sure.)

Click on the link at the bottom of the screen “WAP2”

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Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t HTTPS a different thing and independent from the forum software?

Yes that’s correct.
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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2019, 08:01:37 PM »

...I have never had any problems with this forum...

Me too!

I have subscribed to at least two other forums in wildly differing areas (sailing, audio books) which use this
software - configured slightly differently, so that the appearance is slightly different in each case, but never
experienced a problem...
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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2019, 10:14:31 PM »

Main concern for me is that SMF2 (which we use) isn't terribly well supported at the moment. Have briefly considered a migration to a more recent platform, but as others have said, it works, and there's other ways to spend time for now...

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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 12:53:20 AM »

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Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t HTTPS a different thing and independent from the forum software?

Yes that’s correct.

Didn't intend to mix things up as I know that encryption is a topic of its own. Still, migrating to a new platform would be a good opportunity to set up a renewed SSL certificate and enforce https as the secure and modern standard. (Current certificate is expired since I don't know how long.)

Main concern for me is that SMF2 (which we use) isn't terribly well supported at the moment. Have briefly considered a migration to a more recent platform, but as others have said, it works, and there's other ways to spend time for now...

Understandable that you're not too keen on putting in the required time and effort. I'm wondering what would be the tipping point for you?

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some people saying that there are no cookie related problems with posting

There are posts about this on an irregular basis. There are often errors trying to post and I'd be happy to see them gone. Either with an updated version of SMF2 (presumably not going to happen) or with some other platform.
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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 01:13:36 AM »

I like the way this forum software behaves. It works just fine for me.
As far as I can see it ain't broke, so no need to fix it.
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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 06:04:45 AM »

I like the way this forum software behaves. It works just fine for me.
As far as I can see it ain't broke, so no need to fix it.


Ditto!!
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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 09:26:16 AM »


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There are posts about this on an irregular basis. There are often errors trying to post and I'd be happy to see them gone. Either with an updated version of SMF2 (presumably not going to happen) or with some other platform.

We are on the most up to date version of SMF 2.0.15.  There is SMF2.1 in beta testing

Apart from HTTPS our security seems to be pretty good.  We've had no spammers here for several years I think.  Spammers appear to be the biggest security risk for a discussion forum.

Nearly all the errors that have been reported are a result of some of our security settings being too restrictive.  At present these errors seem to be at a very low level, judging by the reports received.
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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 12:18:15 PM »

I don’t have any problems with the forum as it is and don’t think it needs to change. But then I'm biased as I use the same SMF software for my BCC# Button Box Forum https://buttonbox.org.uk.

Regarding a Search facility, it wouldn’t be easy to do better than the Google Search option in the main menu.

SSL security is a separate thing. I have it on the Button Box Forum (free from my website hosting provider).

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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 12:24:27 PM »

all works fine for me too however  ;) ....... I wish it was easier to upload full size photos-a bunch of them- and our own video sharing option without going thru you tube,sound cloud etc links ..
as main aim is discussion melodeons I'd guess photos and videos comes 2nd or 3rd and I understand that fully.     
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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 02:52:33 PM »

Main concern for me is that SMF2 (which we use) isn't terribly well supported at the moment. Have briefly considered a migration to a more recent platform, but as others have said, it works, and there's other ways to spend time for now...

Understandable that you're not too keen on putting in the required time and effort. I'm wondering what would be the tipping point for you?

Generally when the risks of staying on the platform outweigh the risks of migration. A large security hole that goes unpatched for example. The risks of losing at least some of our existing data during a migration would be sizeable, even though I'd pick something with an established migration tool to move from SMF2 - there are products out there that do have that. We'd also have to migrate the informational parts of the site, which are currently implemented as an SMF2 plugin using 'SimplePortal'. That would probably go to Wordpress, or something similar I expect.

In general, I don't see functionality on other portal platforms that I miss enough to make a serious feasibility study of a non-emergency migration worthwhile yet.

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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 03:15:20 PM »

In general, I don't see functionality on other portal platforms that I miss enough to make a serious feasibility study of a non-emergency migration worthwhile yet.

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Re: Migration to new forum software
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 03:40:40 PM »

Just a comment on the ain'tbrokedon'tfix mindset - this is a good principle in general, but it is worth knowing with tech that it's not that simple.  Every internet service depends on a cluster of supporting technologies, and over time those services update, change, retire, upgrade, and anything that relies on them needs to adapt.  Sometimes things get to the point where adaption is no longer possible, and it's worth staying ahead of that rather than being caught short when XYZ essential feature goes away because something else broke. 
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