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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2018, 05:48:24 PM »

Sorry,  what's gusset? 

Soft material in the bellow corners? ? ?    Or what?

The word 'gusset' in UK English at least is considered funny by some. It sounds rude but isn't actually rude. After a bit of 'research' on Google I found other similar words that raise a smile - if you are a Brit and have a slightly dirty sense of humour. Examples of other innocent but rude sounding words are 'flange', 'penal' and, perhaps, 'poop deck'. Many of us (me included) will have been grinning widely every time somebody writes the word 'gusset'. If anyone wants to add to my erudite explanation, please feel free. (:). (Nick CB...where are you).

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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2018, 06:18:43 PM »

In particular, pants/trousers have a gusset in the crutch area, as does underwear, more notably mentioned with regard to female underwear (maybe it's just the company I keep).
That should narrow down the area of research.
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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2018, 08:19:23 PM »

Also a term use in house construction for a member of wood or metal that holds two other pieces together.
So like in a roof truss where pieces are not nailed together but rather held together by a metal gusset plate. These are usually stamped or punched into the wood so that little tabs of metal dig in to the wood, surprisingly strong.
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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2018, 08:38:34 PM »

'Truss' is also a word that has comic uses.

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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2018, 10:58:21 AM »

Also support.  As in: Thank you for your support, I shall always wear it.
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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2018, 11:36:08 AM »

To get back to the original topic. I am wondering if Hohner ever used other fabric for this purpose? When I look at the existing gussets on the bellows, they are shiny black on the surface, but underneath, and looking at them from the inside, they are a sort of fluffy white material. Photo attached hopefully.

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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2018, 12:57:01 PM »

From a position of unassailable ignorance it looks to me like oil cloth, aka American cloth.  Whatever it is it looks completely perished.
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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2018, 02:36:05 PM »

The ones I’ve seen like that were white leather with a black surface.
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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2018, 02:44:07 PM »

Thanks Theo, I did wonder, but it doesn't look very leathery now.

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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2018, 02:45:36 PM »

Old leather can do that.
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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2018, 03:03:26 PM »

It looks like I'm going to have to junk these belows, it's like Whack-a-Mole. Repair one, and another one goes. The leather is sort dry and crumbly,  with cracks everywhere.. I suppose I could try stripping them down completely, and renewing all the leather, but that would mean removing and then replacing all the corners too. Time to look for a new set methinks.

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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2018, 04:22:12 PM »

Assuming there are only 1 or 2 gussets in need of replacement, is there a way to remove the old ones with minimal damage to bellows tape, paper and cardboard ??
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Re: Replacing leaky gussets
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2018, 04:28:35 PM »

You can cut the old one out, but to get rid of it completely you would need to remove the metal corners, which trap the corner of the gusset. Then when you have done that you need to repair/replace the bellows papers, which cover the opposite corners of the gusset.


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