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Matt Langley

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Tunes for low G scale
« on: March 15, 2018, 01:54:02 PM »

Hi everyone

I have been reading with interest Maggie’s thread about D/G liliputs on the construction and repair discussion.  I own a similar D/G liliput conversion with a 4th button start and the low G scale.  I started learning to play on a standard 3rd button start melodeon and most of my repertoire still comes from there. Reading the thread and Gena’s reply in particular got me thinking about how I am not using those new low notes now available to me on the Liliput.

So, I am hoping members might be able to suggest good tunes to learn that make use of those extra, currently neglected, buttons on the low G scale. 

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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 02:00:44 PM »

My party trick is to play Donkey Riding in all three octaves on the treble then, with a following wind once through using the bass buttons. (:)

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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2018, 02:29:17 PM »

Paddy Fahey's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H2fL_ISnAQ

but beware there are many tunes of the same name!

And Morpeth Rant goes down to low G
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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2018, 02:33:25 PM »

How about 'Zelda'? This uses the low B but many players who lack that note substitute the octave higher.  With the addition of the low B note you can play it as writ or experiment with changing the octaves as well. 


X: 1
T: Zelda
R: jig
M: 6/8
L: 1/8
K: Emin
B2 E B2 E | cBA B2 E | BAG F2 A | AGF G2 E |
B2 E B2 E | cBA B2 E | BAG F2 A | AGF E2 z ||
EFG B,2 B, | EFG C2 C | EFG F2 F | AGF G2 E |
EFG B,2 B, | EFG C2 C | EFG F2 F | AGF E3 ||



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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2018, 02:38:12 PM »

Try Josefins Dopvals by Roger Tallroth, Mahone Bay by Willy Taylor, Upplandsschottis by Pär Näsbom.... and Hambo på Logen. Oh, and Atholl Highlanders!
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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2018, 02:46:47 PM »

There's lots of tunes that use just a handful of low notes, and you could get away without them, but if you have them, nice to use!

You could try: The Charming Maid, Sadlers Wells, Stony Steps, Old Morpeth Rant, and Gloucestershire Hornpipe.
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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2018, 02:49:40 PM »

Here's one: One More Dance And Then

X: 1
T: One More Dance And Then
C:Johnston's 200 Favourite Country Dances Performed At Court,
C:Tunbridge, Scarborough, and Most Publick Places, With Directions For Dancing
C:This setting from the excellent Mr. Barber, Bonny Kate.
M: 4/4
L: 1/16
R: reel
K:G
|: Bc | d3ed2B2 g4 B2c2| d3e d2B2 c2A4 Bc|d3e d2B2 g2f2e2d2|e2d2c2B2 B4 A6:|]
|: AB| c2A2f2c2 a2c2B2A2|B2G2d2B2 g2B2A2G2|B2A2G2E2 D2C2B,2A,|G,2c2B2A2 G6 :|]
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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2018, 02:55:13 PM »

Tunes such as Charming Maid, One more Dance and The Gloucestershire Hornpipe can be played using either 3rd button G or the lower one generally found on a 4th button start.
It is reasonable to assume they all were originally writ for the low G as it's the lowest note on a fiddle, but with the invention of the ( 3rd button start ) DG Melodeon, there wasn't this low G so people played tunes up an octave.
We're now re-learning how they were probably originally played!
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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2018, 03:02:37 PM »

Speaking as someone with a low octave G and a low D octave, they come into their own when you play octaves. I only have one tune that actually has to use the low D octave in order to work as written.

Bad Earth Waltz by Nick Wyke

X:1
%%landscape
T:Bad Earth Waltz
O:written by Nick, in 2003, to celebrate getting his new five string fiddle-with a low D string
C:Nick Wyke
M:3/4
L:1/4
K:Dmaj clef=treble
F,/2>E,/2|:"D"D,2D |"D"D,F,A,|"G"G,G F|"A"E CA,/2>G,/2|
"D"F,2D,|"D"DEF|"G"G,GF|"A"E2A/2G/2|
"D"F2D|"G"G2D|"A"ABc|"D" dAF|"G"G,EG|
"A" A,DC|1"D" D3|-D2F,/2>E,/2:|2 "D" D3|"3rd A.S. el Goda"-D2z |]
|:"A"ECA,|"D"FDA,|"G"GBd|"D"fga|
"B"b2g|"D"af2|"G"Gge|"A"cAB/2c/2|
"D"dAF|"G"GAB|"A"Aag|"D"fdA|
"G"Geg|"A"Adc|"D"dA"G"G|1 "D"FD "A"A,]2 "1. 2. A.C.""D"FD"A"A,|]
!coda!A/2G/2|"D"F2D|"G"G2D|"A"ABc|
"D"dAF|"G"G,EG|"A"A,DC|"D"D3-|"D"D3|]


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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2018, 03:16:43 PM »

Stoney Steps played by Anahata! I have the ABC for this somewhere and it's also the last of the variants in Hardcore English if you have that.


The Rose Tree uses the low B.

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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2018, 04:41:15 PM »

Butchers Hornpipe (Leadley)

The Cream Pot, Mrs Saggs and Savage Hornpipe (if played in G) need a low C natural, but not the low G.

I like repeating a tune an octave lower for variety, in a session for example. In G you can get a lot further with this when you have those low notes, though it's still possible to run out.
And I make up harmony parts that go down there...
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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2018, 06:05:53 PM »

Among many other reasons, The Ashokan Farewell played in D, as I suspect most fiddle players will play it, can use the low G, both the low push and pull A for chord pairings, the low B, and you can use the low C in an octave pair with the C accidental in the B music to (I imagine) give a bit more body to the rather wistful accidental rather than risk stonking the hell out of it with your basses.

Also you can do a run down to the low G at the end of your tunes if it suits it. I'd probably learn the Old Morpeth Rant in G after that because I love pairing those two tunes.
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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2018, 11:52:47 AM »

Great thread with some tunes I have never heard of!  And Pete reminds me, I used to call the low G retune (Anahata-type), "Stoney Steps Tuning"!  THANKS.
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Re: Tunes for low G scale
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2018, 09:08:18 AM »

Wow, thanks everybody!  There is enough there to keep me going for years decades probably  ;)

What a great illustration of the accumulated wisdom available on the forum.

Kind regards

Matt
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