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The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, Red Wing
« on: April 20, 2018, 09:02:41 PM »

Three more tunes from the Horsmonden workshops played and demonstrated on a DG melodeon for learning, including by ear.

The Great North Run: https://youtu.be/9A3Zsddkbic

Elsey's Waltz: https://youtu.be/0-_aZvpMiq0

For technical reasons the third tune will be linked in a following post.

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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2018, 09:05:55 PM »

Red. Wing: https://youtu.be/cy-AeqztP60

As always, please let me know if you find these useful!

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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2018, 08:43:11 AM »

I've known Redwing for many years and this is the first time I've seen it with the definate article, what is your source Gav?
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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2018, 09:05:33 AM »

The Redwing is a session regular here in Devon.
As ever I try and play what they play.... which isn't far away from Gavin's.
I'm sure I read somewhere that it started off as a US song about a native American??
I found the abc's somewhere via Mr. Google!
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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2018, 09:30:52 AM »

I think you missed my point Q, I know this as Redwing, not "The" Redwing, and I've never come across it with this title before although I have seen called Redwing Polka. Sorry if this sounds pedantic, I was just curious about the title source, nothing more.
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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 10:18:19 AM »

It's 'Red Wing' apparently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Wing_(song)

Every day, something new... Calling it 'The Redwing' is an old habit, perhaps picked up from whoever I learned it from be ear quite some decades ago. I really don't remember!

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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2018, 10:34:22 AM »

Ah sorry Pete, point taken.
I think we do call it 'Red Wing', I've added 'the' thinking I was using good grammar for once in my life!
Never heard it referred to as 'Red Wing polka' though.
Thanks to Gavin for the link to the song.

I always find it fascinating that an American composition is embedded in our music. I had similar thoughts years back when I used to be part of a skittle team. The old boys would often sing after the match as the beer went down. 'Good night Irene' was often sung, and I was always surprised that a Leadbelly song was a firm favourite in East Devon skittle teams!
Just goes to show how songs and tunes get adopted here and enjoyed whilst the origins are lost in time.
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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2018, 04:00:10 PM »

"Red Wing" is a popular song written in 1907 with music by Kerry Mills and lyrics by Thurland Chattaway in USA, but very popular in music halls in UK. Tale of a little Indian maid. I can post lyrics and also Charlie Chaplin version should anybody want them. Oh, and is definitely Redwing who is the sad little Indian maid.
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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2018, 04:45:32 PM »

Gavin's Wikipedia link above takes you to the full story and lyrics, both original and Charlie Chaplin versions.
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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2018, 03:07:14 PM »

Gavin's Wikipedia link above takes you to the full story and lyrics, both original and Charlie Chaplin versions.

And indeed the Woody Guthrie song "Union Maid" (or possibly "THE Union Maid") set to the same tune.
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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2018, 03:26:09 PM »


I always find it fascinating that an American composition is embedded in our music. I had similar thoughts years back when I used to be part of a skittle team. The old boys would often sing after the match as the beer went down. 'Good night Irene' was often sung, and I was always surprised that a Leadbelly song was a firm favourite in East Devon skittle teams!
Just goes to show how songs and tunes get adopted here and enjoyed whilst the origins are lost in time.
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The Redwing tune has also entered the Australian tradition, invariably heard in "Australian" sessions at festivals etc., usually led by massed melodeons   :||:

Leadbelly's "Goodnight Irene" was certainly well known to me in my youth and living in Bristol, as the theme song of Bristol Rovers Football Club, though being a City supporter, we had our own rude and derogatory version which can't be quoted here.   >:E
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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2018, 04:35:36 PM »

Wow, even to Ausralia!
Fascinating how these things self seed around the globe.
If we could fast forward a century, I wonder how many current popular tunes and songs would be then deemed 'traditional'?
The folk tradition has an amazing ability to encompass all......
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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2018, 06:07:15 PM »

Excellent! Something new, every day ;-)

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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2018, 06:17:02 PM »

John Wayne and Lauren Bacall sang it in the 1976 film The Shootist.
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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2018, 05:13:02 PM »

Another day, another new thing!

Thanks Rees!

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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2018, 05:21:27 PM »

It is thought to be based on "Fröhlicher Landmann, von der Arbeit zurückkehrend" from Album für die Jugend, Op.68 by Schumann (No 10).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um8dOgMjrG4

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Re: The Great North Run, Elsey's Waltz, The Redwing
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2018, 09:07:49 PM »

Oh my heavens. Wonders never cease, do they? Cheers Lester!
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