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Re: Boot fair buy "what is it"?
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2018, 09:50:40 AM »

As a general rule what is  "steel bronze" in my experience this can usually be read as "brass" but is there such a thing? I would have thought it was a chemichal nonsequitur, steel is steel, Bronze is copper and tin in varying proportions with sometimes traces of other metals,....but surely not steel,...itself an alloy of Iron and Carbon !!

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Re: Boot fair buy "what is it"?
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2018, 09:58:07 AM »

As a general rule what is  "steel bronze" in my experience this can usually be read as "brass" but is there such a thing? I would have thought it was a chemichal nonsequitur, steel is steel, Bronze is copper and tin in varying proportions with sometimes traces of other metals,....but surely not steel,...itself an alloy of Iron and Carbon !!

According to the on-line Merriam-Webster dictionary, 'steel bronze' is a bronze of about 92 percent copper and 8 percent tin hardened by compression and used as a substitute for steel in making guns — called also Uchatius bronze.
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Re: Boot fair buy "what is it"?
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2018, 10:00:21 AM »

As a general rule what is  "steel bronze" in my experience this can usually be read as "brass" but is there such a thing? I would have thought it was a chemichal nonsequitur, steel is steel, Bronze is copper and tin in varying proportions with sometimes traces of other metals,....but surely not steel,...itself an alloy of Iron and Carbon !!

According to the on-line Merriam-Webster dictionary, 'steel bronze' is a bronze of about 92 percent copper and 8 percent tin hardened by compression and used as a substitute for steel in making guns — called also Uchatius bronze.



So !!  a Hardened brass then !!   Many Thanks Steve.
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Re: Boot fair buy "what is it"?
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2018, 10:24:28 AM »

No not a hardened brass, but a hardened bronze.  Brass is a copper zinc alloy.  Bronze is copper and tin.
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Re: Boot fair buy "what is it"?
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2018, 10:40:46 AM »

I expect that each of the common reed materials have their own plus points as far as suitability goes. But couldn't more modern, hi-tech materials and manufacturing processes, have something better to offer?

(If this departure from the original question is a step too far, please feel free to move it.)
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Re: Boot fair buy "what is it"?
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2018, 10:42:10 AM »

Old banjo player told me once if it ain't heavy it ain't no good lol

I often tell people you pay for good banjos "by the Kilo"! ;)

But I usually add the rider "as long as the weight is in the right places" - seeing that I've come across cheaply-made heavy banjos that have it in all the wrong ones... :o

I used tp own an Ozark. I only took it to gigs in case the audience turned nasty. Wielded accurately, it would have felled the first three rows, no problem... >:E
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Re: Boot fair buy "what is it"?
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2018, 08:07:12 PM »

I expect that each of the common reed materials have their own plus points as far as suitability goes. But couldn't more modern, hi-tech materials and manufacturing processes, have something better to offer?


I once met a melodeon player who claimed to have made a set of Titanium reeds,  I never saw or heard them, and as far as I know no one else did either, but I would have thought that Titanium  would have been rather brittle and therefore not very effective,although I think Titanium occurs in some "Stainless" steels, Metalurgy is not my Forte I'm afraid !!!!!

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Re: Boot fair buy "what is it"?
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2018, 08:08:55 PM »

No not a hardened brass, but a hardened bronze.  Brass is a copper zinc alloy.  Bronze is copper and tin.

Thanks Theo,.. That's what I actually meant, but mistyped !!!!
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Re: Boot fair buy "what is it"?
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2018, 10:59:56 PM »

My 30s Paramount tenor always yanks arms out of sockets when people attempt to pick it up, it's heavier than the 20s models - they made everything simpler, including switching from shoes for each hook to a simple big rim, ala Gibson, giving it an even fiercer clang.  It's about my only player now, I sold everything else.  Made a lot of bridges years ago, none were the best but I always balked at hoping $40 would buy the bridge of my dreams, and don't mind taking on a simple woodworking project like this.  Made some with alternate wood tops but settled on solid maple.  I'm not fanatical about tone but they sound alright to me.

I want to make some 2 footers this summer, see how simple a design I can cook up.  That would be apropros with the rest of the banjo, after all.  The ones I made before were 3 foot.  This thing takes realllllly low bridges, too.  Anyway, fun to make like this is banjohangout for a while here, where's Paul Groff?  He knows a Silver Bell from a TB-1.   
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