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RVJ87

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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2018, 07:34:31 AM »

 By the way, does anyone know anything about these? https://www.verdestrumentimusicali.com/fisarmoniche/diatonica/occitan.html. Looks and sounds very nice- might be what I need. Obviously I'd need it in D/G with the correct left-hand layout. I think G/C is the standard tuning for these boxes, but I could probably send them a diagram of what I need. 
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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2018, 06:48:14 PM »

Presumably not to be found in a shop with lots of other possibilities, but have you considered Cairdin?


http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php?topic=19403.0
http://cairdin.eu5.org/range.html
Personally I would love a Cairdin, but the website shows prices from €2800 and a long delivery time - or have I misread the website.
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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2018, 07:33:47 PM »

By the way, does anyone know anything about these? https://www.verdestrumentimusicali.com/fisarmoniche/diatonica/occitan.html. Looks and sounds very nice- might be what I need. Obviously I'd need it in D/G with the correct left-hand layout. I think G/C is the standard tuning for these boxes, but I could probably send them a diagram of what I need.

Running a search on Melnet for "Verde" will produce a couple of dozen results, some of which will give you some idea of the quality, even if they go back a few years.

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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2018, 09:17:57 PM »

Thank you. I had a look at some of the older posts on the subject and Verde boxes seem quite well-regarded. I think it may possibly be what I'm looking for, though I don't know how I would go about ordering a D/G box with accidentals and correct left hand layout on my own; as I mentioned earlier, my Italian is practically non-existent. I did have a go at making an Italian translation of the standard D/G layout, but of course there's the possibility that it could be misread or misinterpreted- goodness knows what I might end up with.

On a related note, I gather that Rees Wesson used to import G.Verde boxes, but stopped because of supply issues (I think) so I'm not sure who might be able to help.
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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2018, 09:47:43 PM »

You're still not going to know how fast they respond until you've played one, are you?

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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2018, 09:59:47 PM »

I may be wrong about this one but aren't Verdi boxes made for them by another Italian manufacturer?  I seem to recall someone telling me it was Mengascini but I may be wrong?  Dave Jolly imports Mengascini boxes as does Belfast Music, in addition to the ones with a stepped keyboard they sell a black sparkly one with a flat keyboard which is their own design.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4kwL948C7Q
There is an earlier thread about this box somewhere which discusses it's likeness to the Gabbanelli that Rees designed and imported.
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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2018, 10:38:34 PM »

@Choonz Yes, though I believe they're manufactured by Polverini. I've seen the Mengascini melodeon and I see the resemblance to the Gabbanelli (I think it's the Gabbanelli Pocket)- very nice, but not sure it's for me. I did see one of the Gabbanelli boxes for sale somewhere- I can't seem to find much information about it though.
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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2018, 09:49:31 AM »

You're still not going to know how fast they respond until you've played one, are you?

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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2018, 10:31:03 AM »

Bob Ellis of this parish has a Gabbanelli Pocket in D/G. He may be able to offer more help.
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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2018, 10:42:27 AM »

As it happens, I've just seen a S/H Gabbanelli Pocket melodeon listed on the website of Birmingham Accordion Centre.
Dave Jolly's website does not give an address. Last I heard he was living in France, though that was probably about a year ago (he did some work + buying and selling for us earlier when we lived near Northampton and has been in touch since).
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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2018, 10:50:32 PM »

I had a Verde on trial from Rees a while back. Listening to this video now makes me think that it was a great sounding and playing box, especially for the money. There's also an early prototype Castagnari and a Giustozzi on the video. I did get permission at the time to upload the video, as they weren't my boxes. I ended up buying something else for a strange set of circumstances - allergy to some woods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5F8fPIzikA
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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2018, 01:05:55 PM »

As that video shows, the only way to tell whether you'll like the feel and sound of a box is to play it.....
...and perhaps to hear someone else play it. I have a Giustozzi , the sibling of the one in the video, and watching that video gave me a new perspective on my own box.

One of the best way to try lots of different boxes is to visit melodeon-focused workshop event like Witney, Wensleydale etc, as most people will be only to happy to let you try their boxes. And/or festivals of course.

I'd definitely suggest having a chat to Rees as he has relationships with a number of the Italian builders and has ordered/imported small batches of custom (i.e. non-standard to the Italians) D/G boxes from Giustozzi,  Gabbanelli, Castagnari.......
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Re: need to find a retailer with lots in stock
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2018, 03:12:13 PM »

I had a Verde on trial from Rees a while back. Listening to this video now makes me think that it was a great sounding and playing box, especially for the money. There's also an early prototype Castagnari and a Giustozzi on the video. I did get permission at the time to upload the video, as they weren't my boxes. I ended up buying something else for a strange set of circumstances - allergy to some woods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5F8fPIzikA

Interesting video, I certainly liked the Giustozzi, never having heard one before, not much to choose between that and the Verde, but it confirmed my dislike of Castagnaris ;)

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