Topic: Unknown melodeon (Read 5932 times)

Andrew Kennedy · « **on:** August 15, 2018, 10:23:57 AM »

Does anybody recognise this? https://www.ebay.de/itm/Handharmonika-diatonisch-2-reihige-Bandonika-4-Loffelbasse-Bauer-Akkordeon/163174019838?hash=item25fdedf2fe:g:WCkAAOSweLBaW5E0
It's described as a Hohner Imperator V, but the Hohner product list attached to melnet gives the Imperator V as a piano accordion.
Any suggestions welcome.
AK

Andrius · « **Reply #1 on:** August 15, 2018, 10:38:07 AM »

Sometimes people are editing old adds instead of creating new. May be Hohner and Imperator are relics of old add.
Sadly I can not say anything about this instrument except that it is melodeon/accordion and not bandonika for sure.

Steve_freereeder · « **Reply #2 on:** August 15, 2018, 10:43:23 AM »

Quote from: Andrew Kennedy on August 15, 2018, 10:23:57 AM

Does anybody recognise this? https://www.ebay.de/itm/Handharmonika-diatonisch-2-reihige-Bandonika-4-Loffelbasse-Bauer-Akkordeon/163174019838?hash=item25fdedf2fe:g:WCkAAOSweLBaW5E0
It's described as a Hohner Imperator V, but the Hohner product list attached to melnet gives the Imperator V as a piano accordion.
Any suggestions welcome.
AK

There's no mention of a Hohner Imperator V in the current Ebay listing. Perhaps (as Andrius has hinted) the listing has since been edited to remove the reference.

Winston Smith · « **Reply #3 on:** August 15, 2018, 10:48:18 AM »

Yes, Andrius might have just hit the nail on the head there!
The seller has even left that which says "Pianoakkordeon Imperator V Diskanttasten (treble keys) 41 and HOHNER", so it definitely doesn't accord with the instrument for sale. My inexpert eye can see nothing in the pictures which would lead me to think that it was manufactured by Hohner, but maybe an expert can?
(I've just refreshed the page and that info is still there, Steve.)

Steve_freereeder · « **Reply #4 on:** August 15, 2018, 11:17:26 AM »

Oh, so it is - I missed it in the small(er) print.

It doesn't look like a Hohner, but perhaps Triskel or someone else will tell us otherwise.

triskel · « **Reply #5 on:** August 15, 2018, 11:32:23 AM »

Quote from: Steve_freereeder on August 15, 2018, 11:17:26 AM

It doesn't look like a Hohner, but perhaps Triskel or someone else will tell us otherwise.

Nope!

Fred · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2018, 03:34:09 AM »

In the description it says:
Musikinstitut C.A. Bauer Dresden

"Musikinstitut" translates to "institute of music"
"C.A. Bauer" is most definitely the name of a person
"Dresden" is a city in the eastern part of Germany

Maybe that helps someone? Most likely not.

Andrew Kennedy · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2018, 02:37:56 PM »

Thanks for all the comments. There was only ever going to be one way to find out properly, so I've taken a punt and bought it. I'll continue this when it arrives.

AK

triskel · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2018, 04:58:12 PM »

Quote from: Andrew Kennedy on August 16, 2018, 02:37:56 PM

... I've taken a punt and bought it. I'll continue this when it arrives.

Goodness, that's very brave of you at the price!

It'd be not untypical of a better-quality style of Deutsche Harmonika that was not uncommon in Germany before WW1, but nevertheless it still probably has either "Ajax" (hard brass) or "Neusilber" (nickel-silver) reeds on long plates.

I have one that's somewhat similar (only it has real trumpets, whilst they're dummies on the eBay one), and it's quite a behemoth...

Andrew Kennedy · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2018, 07:19:23 PM »

A fair point, but firstly, I can return it within 14 days if not satisfactory (and it was described as playable, admittedly an elastic concept), and secondly, I've just had two others off German Ebay at very reasonable prices, so in a way I'm ahead of the game.
We'll see. I've still got to smuggle it into the house.

AK

Chris Rayner · « **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2018, 07:49:07 PM »

This title keeps catching my eye. I’m struck by the need to mark the last resting place of the unknown melodeon. Perhaps an empty case, q.v. the Cenotaph.

Henry Piper · « **Reply #11 on:** August 17, 2018, 10:17:17 AM »

Quote from: Chris Rayner on August 16, 2018, 07:49:07 PM

This title keeps catching my eye. I’m struck by the need to mark the last resting place of the unknown melodeon. Perhaps an empty case, q.v. the Cenotaph.

Just as a point of History Chris, The Cenotaph in Whitehall is not " an empty case" but contains the remains of one anonymous soldier chosen at random to represent all the others killed in wars.

Andrew Kennedy · « **Reply #12 on:** August 17, 2018, 01:35:25 PM »

Not sure about this. At the risk of going off-topic with regard to what was a lighthearted comment, cenotaph quite literally means 'empty tomb' in Greek; there is an unknown warrior buried in Westminster Abbey. The melodeon case would be just the thing if something awful had happened. Like my wife finding out I'd bought another one.

NB: I didn't manage to keep the Sousaphone secret.

AK

Ebor_fiddler · « **Reply #13 on:** August 17, 2018, 04:38:30 PM »

Respectfully sorry Henry,

but the Unknown Soldier is buried in Westminster Abbey. (I bet you remember that now ... ). A cenotaph is a memorial put up because the person memorialised is buried elsewhere, the empty burial ship at Sutton Hoo was such a memorial. The London Cenotaph was built to remember the dead of the British Empire. Wikipedia does a better job than me here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cenotaph,_Whitehall

Chris B.

Henry Piper · « **Reply #14 on:** August 18, 2018, 10:20:46 AM »

Quote from: Ebor_fiddler on August 17, 2018, 04:38:30 PM

Respectfully sorry Henry, but the Unknown Soldier is buried in Westminster Abbey. (I bet you remember that now ... ). A cenotaph is a memorial put up because the person memorialised is buried elsewhere, the empty burial ship at Sutton Hoo was such a memorial. The London Cenotaph was built to remember the dead of the British Empire. Wikipedia does a better job than me here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cenotaph,_Whitehall

Chris B.

Absolutely Correct Chris and others !! My apologies I was confusing the two !! ….Now back to the post !!!

Helena Handcart · « **Reply #15 on:** August 18, 2018, 10:55:23 AM »

Quote from: Andrew Kennedy on August 15, 2018, 10:23:57 AM

Does anybody recognise this? https://www.ebay.de/itm/Handharmonika-diatonisch-2-reihige-Bandonika-4-Loffelbasse-Bauer-Akkordeon/163174019838?hash=item25fdedf2fe:g:WCkAAOSweLBaW5E0
It's described as a Hohner Imperator V, but the Hohner product list attached to melnet gives the Imperator V as a piano accordion.
Any suggestions welcome.
AK

So E-bay is doing a really annoying thing and not letting me see the completed listing - instead it shows a similar item it thinks I might like. I do, it's a Hohner one row pressed wood style, but really we have enough melodeons in this house. Does anyone know how to get around this on E-bay?

malcolmbebb · « **Reply #16 on:** August 18, 2018, 11:20:19 AM »

Quote from: Helena Handcart on August 18, 2018, 10:55:23 AM

...but really we have enough melodeons in this house. Does anyone know how to get around this on E-bay?

Not sure that Ebay can help you with that, H...

PS scrolling right down to the bottom of the page worked for me.

Winston Smith · « **Reply #17 on:** August 18, 2018, 11:32:48 AM »

On the right of the page, is written "Originalartikel ansehen" click on that and it takes you there.
But you then have to scroll down a bit.

Andrius · « **Reply #18 on:** August 18, 2018, 12:43:46 PM »

Photos from add for future, part 1

title:
Handharmonika diatonisch 2 reihige Bandonika 4 Löffelbässe Bauer Akkordeon

description:
Antikes Akkordeon
Musikinstitut C.A. Bauer Dresden

diatonisch

Zweireiher
4 Löffelbässe

Siehe Fotos
schöne Optik

sofort spielbar

Keine Rücknahme, keine Garantie, Privatverkauf

Andrius · « **Reply #19 on:** August 18, 2018, 12:52:12 PM »

Photos from add for future, part 2

News:

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