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Hugh Taylor

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Hanter Dro timings
« on: October 15, 2018, 07:25:22 PM »
Looking for some info from Breton music experts. I attended an excellent French dance and music workshop in Todmorden last Saturday, and danced and played a Hanter Dro. They all seem to written with a time signature of 3/4, but have a feel of 4 beats and 2 beats, making a count of 6, which sounds more like 3/2 to me. Have I got this wrong?
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Re: Hanter Dro timings
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2018, 08:28:39 PM »
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Re: Hanter Dro timings
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2018, 11:08:22 PM »
I've seen them notated both ways, but they are definitely played as 3/2. 1-2-2-2-3-2

This is one reason AnDro/HanterDros don't have the pushme/pullyou of odd time signatures. Moving from a series of 3 twos to a series of 2 twos is interesting (good tunes!), but isn't discombobulating (sorry for the technical terms) as a 5/4.
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Re: Hanter Dro timings
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2018, 11:58:40 PM »
Don't obsess about about the printed time signature, think about the stepping of the dance. The hanter dro is left-right-left (pause) left, --  counting sort of 1and2 (-) 4.  I suggest you get that stepping pattern firmly in your head before playing.
The  tunes/dances that have alternating patterns  are probably for a tricot, not a standard hanter dro.
Have a look at   http://dansal.gwalarn.org/hanterdro.html    ( but watch out,  G and D aren't notes, they mean Gauche and Droit- left foot and right foot).
For real confusion try a five step waltz, there's only one person with whom I have managed to dance that!!
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Re: Hanter Dro timings
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 12:03:48 AM »
that should be left-right-left (pause) - RIGHT.   Obviously brain fade has set in and I should go to bed.
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Re: Hanter Dro timings
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 12:56:35 AM »
Hanter dro is a 6 count dance. Not sure how to best translate it into written music though. Very very roughly speaking, you could see it as a 4+2, but 2+2+2 works as well.
Looking at dance descriptions wouldn't lead you that far as for how to play it. Some examples here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_H0XTyuFG4&t=3497s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YthC4P0jcEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWPo1rcfd5Q (here you have a variation with an added 2 times where dancers crouch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gAFtMMhSNI
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