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Man1nvan

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Club 1B . when were they made?
« on: November 14, 2018, 11:05:32 PM »

I bought a Club1b in c/f on spec for my daughter who fancied a go at the buttons.

She has had it for a few months now but she recently asked me to de-club it for her.

On the outside the box was immaculate, looked like it had never been played, the bellows are perfect and still stiff like new.  When i opened it up it is the same,  it looks like factory wax which is not even brittle with Plastic reeds And the box is 880 tuned (and in very good tune) so my question is;-  does anyone know when these were made?  they aren't on the list which someone helpfully posted.

The reeds also have that slightly brassy sound of newer Hohner reeds to my ear

I am fairly sure this is identical to the Victoria structually, but were these a re-run?  or is this just a very good example of an older box?

I have seen a couple for sale since and both were in similar condition.
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Re: Club 1B . when were they made?
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2018, 08:39:15 AM »

Club 1B was made in 1939, and would not have plastic valves. Could it be a IIB ?


"CLUB II B Club 23+7 8 2 0/ Tremolo 1949 -1965,73,87,95"

These are the dates on the Hohner models list.


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Re: Club 1B . when were they made?
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2018, 08:49:57 AM »

Club 1B was made in 1939, and would not have plastic valves. Could it be a IIB ?

file:///C:/Users/John/Downloads/Hohner_Akkordeon_Modelle_06_2006.pdf

The list is not complete.   The IB could have been made in other years as well.
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Re: Club 1B . when were they made?
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2018, 09:18:48 AM »

Club 1B was made in 1939, and would not have plastic valves. Could it be a IIB ?


"CLUB II B Club 23+7 8 2 0/ Tremolo 1949 -1965,73,87,95"

These are the dates on the Hohner models list.


SJ

file:///C:/Users/John/Downloads/Hohner_Akkordeon_Modelle_06_2006.pdf

I can't get your link to work. It looks like it goes to a file on your C drive
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Re: Club 1B . when were they made?
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2018, 09:32:14 AM »

Yes, sorry. I'm sure someone on here will have the correct link. That's a PDF on my system.

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Re: Club 1B . when were they made?
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2018, 10:03:20 AM »

It’s on here.  Go to Home page > Makers > Hohner
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Re: Club 1B . when were they made?
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2018, 10:40:42 AM »

I bought a Club1b in c/f on spec for my daughter who fancied a go at the buttons.


Please could you post a photo of the instrument.  That would clear up possible misunderstandings.

Club 1B was made in 1939, and would not have plastic valves. Could it be a IIB ?

"CLUB II B Club 23+7 8 2 0/ Tremolo 1949 -1965,73,87,95"

These are the dates on the Hohner models list.


The Hohner model list does not include a "Club IB".  It does include a "Club IB Piccoletta" which is a much different instrument from the Club IIB
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Re: Club 1B . when were they made?
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2018, 10:13:29 PM »

This is one on ebay not ours . but it is identical

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Re: Club 1B . when were they made?
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2018, 10:23:31 PM »

Not a Club 1B Piccoletta then.  Best guess it would be late 1940s,  but just a best guess.
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Re: Club 1B . when were they made?
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2018, 10:50:27 PM »

Thanks all

To be honest the box it came in looked that kind of age but the box inside looks like new  and so do the others i have seen.   I suppose it may just be a freak buy .  something which was bought but never played.  it is in lovely nick but as i put in the original post, it doesn't have that lush old sound.  But then it was cheap, it's in tune and doesn't sound all that bad  so i will stop complaining  :||:
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