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Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« on: November 25, 2018, 08:08:51 PM »
I was wondering whether this might be a candidate for conversion? Don't know anything about its age or whatever, but I have a melodeon with the same bellows papers.


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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2018, 08:24:15 PM »
Maybe a Semi-Shand box?  Keep the LH stock and go diatonic in the RH...
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2018, 08:41:35 PM »
Why would you want to?  If you want a 12 bass diatonic there are plenty of Coronas around.
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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2018, 08:44:06 PM »
you need to check the dimensions  but probably fairly near to a pokerwork melodeon.   Might need an adaptor plate  to connect bass end to pokerwork bellows.   To me 12 'stradella' (same both ways) bass is much better than the 8 melodeon bass particularly as the choice of bass note/chord is not dependent on bellows direction which means  that there is always bass available whether playing on the row or across the rows .
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2018, 08:46:25 PM »
George, I have one of these in my workshop at the moment and it is more like Corona size.  Certainly much bigger than pokerwork size.
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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2018, 08:47:08 PM »
Quote from: Theo on November 25, 2018, 08:41:35 PM
Why would you want to?  If you want a 12 bass diatonic there are plenty of Coronas around.

but the corona 12 bass are as far as I am aware just an extension of the 8 'melodeon' bass i.e. different in each direction?  if that's what you  want then the corona would be the best root.

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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2018, 08:49:55 PM »
Quote from: Theo on November 25, 2018, 08:46:25 PM
George, I have one of these in my workshop at the moment and it is more like Corona size.  Certainly much bigger than pokerwork size.

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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2018, 09:12:58 PM »
They actually make quite a good morris box for a PA player because they have a great bass sound because they are usually reeded like a melodeon with a separate set of reeds for each button, rather than a conventional stradella reed sharing mechanism.  They are also not very common, so it seems a bit of a shame to convert them.
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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2018, 09:16:32 PM »
Well it's for sale not far from you Theo, for £55. It's too far away for me.


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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 11:58:31 AM »
Quote from: John MacKenzie (Cugiok) on November 25, 2018, 09:16:32 PM
Well it's for sale not far from you Theo, for £55. It's too far away for me.


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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2018, 08:55:41 PM »
Don’t convert it. I’m with Theo on this. It could be a nice little PA..and it’s chromatic (oo errr bit of a novelty for melodeon world...!!).
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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2018, 10:19:00 PM »
I have a friend this would fit like a glove. Where is it?
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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2018, 10:27:44 PM »
Middlesbrough.  I’m in touch with the seller, but it’s an hour each way if I go after it.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2018, 11:10:31 PM »
What are the basses (i.e., are they DG compatible)?
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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2018, 01:58:55 AM »
Quote from: Tone Dumb Greg on November 26, 2018, 11:10:31 PM
What are the basses (i.e., are they DG compatible)?

Most likely Bb, F, C, G, D, A.  At any rate, they would surely follow the circle of 5ths.
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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2018, 10:46:07 AM »
Quote from: Dick Rees on November 27, 2018, 01:58:55 AM
Quote from: Tone Dumb Greg on November 26, 2018, 11:10:31 PM
What are the basses (i.e., are they DG compatible)?

Most likely Bb, F, C, G, D, A.  At any rate, they would surely follow the circle of 5ths.
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Hmm. I was afraid of this. The lack of an Em is a problem
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Re: Yes I know it's a PA, but............
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2018, 12:08:38 PM »
Hi Greg,

... Maybe this is the one you want?

.... The 12 bass ones are nice and not that common, but this one is a real rarity...  24 basses with majors and minors, almost certainly zinc reedplates, plus the beautiful casework.

eBay number:153281315381

Cheers!

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