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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2019, 01:57:24 PM »

In theory a large number of pop songs are possible on the melodeon if you think chord progressions rather than melodies.
Yes. The two-row has all the necessary chords - for certain tonalities. Problems arise when pop songs shift the tonality in the middle of a song in an untraditional way. An example for this is "Mrs. Brown you have a lovely daughter", which in the middle of the song shifts the tonality one major third downwards (e. g. from G to Eb, or from D to Bb): You were happily playing along - and suddenly you lose all chords and struggle to catch all those accidentals. :Ph

Another problem is the combination of chords and melody notes: More often than in trad tunes the chord bellows direction goes against the melody bellows direction. ???

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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2019, 02:41:02 PM »

I don't know if Where do You Go to My Lovely is recent enough to be called "pop", but it's one I have been known to play. The original has a bit of accordion in it.

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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2019, 03:50:54 PM »

A few minutes of cautious experimenting confirms that many Abba songs could work on the melodeon e.g.
I Have a Dream
Take a Chance on Me
Fernando

Or for something more modern, look at the folkier end of the pop spectrum: Mumford and Sons, Fleet Foxes, Passenger (try their "Let Her Go").

I suppose one of us should at a caveat here: just because you can, it doesn't always follow that you should...   but I believe that good strong songs will stand quite a bit of stewtching and reworking.
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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2019, 05:37:59 PM »

Or for something more modern, look at the folkier end of the pop spectrum: Mumford and Sons, Fleet Foxes, Passenger (try their "Let Her Go").
Most Eurodance pop plays easily too. (Note to self: Finally do a recording of What is love and Barbie Girl!)

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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2019, 06:28:45 PM »

Most Eurodance pop plays easily too. (Note to self: Finally do a recording of What is love and Barbie Girl!)
Oh my, Barbie Girl will be magnificent!

Something that I noticed feels like it was almost made with the melodeon in mind is the riff in 99 LuftBallons, the rest of the song works well too.
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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2019, 07:21:54 PM »

Something that I noticed feels like it was almost made with the melodeon in mind is the riff in 99 LuftBallons, the rest of the song works well too.
Oh, beautiful! Could you, please, ellaborate?

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« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2019, 10:25:28 PM »

Oh, beautiful! Could you, please, ellaborate?
Working on it  ;)

Another thing that works is Disney songs, e.g., Under the Sea.
Loads of others are possible too, depending on the movie and the period (The Jazz in Jungle Book may be a tad difficult).
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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2019, 11:20:52 PM »

Then there's Yellow Submarine
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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2019, 12:45:24 PM »

Followed by Lilly the Pink. Greg.  Sometimes I feel a 'Marje' moment coming on  "just because I can ......" :D
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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2019, 09:53:34 PM »

Oh, beautiful! Could you, please, ellaborate?

I can't really play from sheet music, so this probably has loads of errors. The chords I'm pretty sure about (note the change from F#m to F# after the first verse), except the C#sus4 which is only an approximation.

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X: 1
T: 99 LuftBallons
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: E
%first verse
|:"E" f2 g e3 g2|"F#m" f2 e c3 c2|"A" a2 a a3 a2|"B" a2 g f3 e2|
|"E" f2 g e3 g2|"F#m" f2 e c3 c2|"A" e2 c e3 c2| [1 "C#m" e2 c e3 f2:| [2 "C#sus4" f f2 f5 |"C#sus4" z7 E-|
% bridge 1
|:"^no chord" E E C2 E2 C2|z7 E-|E E C2 E2 C E,-|E,7 E-:|
|:E E C2 E2 C2|F G F E2 E C E-|E E C2 E2 C2| [1 B, B,2 B,2 B, C E-:| [2 "B" z  B, B, B, B, B, B, B, |]
%regular verse (more or less)
|:"E" f2 g e3 g2|"F#" f2 e c3 c2|"A" a2 a a3 a2|"B" a2 g f3 e2|
|"E" f2 g e3 g2|"F#" f2 e c3 c2|"A" e2 c e3 c2| [1 "B" f2 f g3 f2:| [2 "B?" f f2 f5 |
%bridge 2
|:"E" f2 g2 e2 g2|"F#" f2 e2 e2 g2|"A" f2 e2 e2 c2| [1 "B" e2 c e3 f2:| [2 "B" b2 g f3 e2|
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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2019, 11:20:58 PM »

Then there's the time we danced the Macarema as a participation dance. The original morris dance. I think the idea came from Armallegon
Probably should have stayed there.
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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2019, 01:03:40 AM »

Then there's the time we danced the Macarema as a participation dance. The original morris dance. I think the idea came from Armallegon
Probably should have stayed there.
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAOUDwhVdw
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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2019, 09:00:51 AM »

Then there's the time we danced the Macarema as a participation dance. The original morris dance. I think the idea came from Armallegon
Probably should have stayed there.
Evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAOUDwhVdw

That's the one. Much classier than our attempt.  (:)
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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2019, 05:22:02 PM »

How about Laughing Len's "Dance me to the end of love"? Could it be classed as "pop"?
The first time I heard it was on Jules Holland's TV programme, and Mr Cohen stole the show (naturally!). I've just had a go at it on my 1 row, and found the basic tune easy enough, but nowhere near interesting enough or good enough to record. I'm sure, though, that some of you skilled 2 row players could make a lovely, full sounding, job of it.

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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2019, 05:35:35 PM »

How about Laughing Len's "Dance me to the end of love"? Could it be classed as "pop"?


Counts as pop in my book.
I  occasionally play "No Way To [say] Goodbye" when everyone's getting too cheerful in an apres morris session, just to bring on a maudlin moment. Works great on a two row.
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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2019, 10:09:08 PM »

Isn’t she lovely (Stevie wonder) - Melodeon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdn1KCGii-E

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Hello Morten, and welcome to the forum.

To help you understand a bit of the etiquette to posting here, I should point out that the way you shared ToraderM's brilliant video of him playing that Stevie Wonder hit song has given the impression that you were the person performing it. By the way, ToraderM is a member of this forum.

By all means feel free to share examples of such outstanding melodeon playing, but next time please add a bit more explanation making it clear that you're sharing a link to someone else's playing.

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Re: 'Pop' on the Melodeon?
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2019, 02:41:51 PM »

Thank you, ill read up on etiquette in this forum, and my english is limited.
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Hello Morten, and welcome to the forum.

To help you understand a bit of the etiquette to posting here, I should point out that the way you shared ToraderM's brilliant video of him playing that Stevie Wonder hit song has given the impression that you were the person performing it. By the way, ToraderM is a member of this forum.

By all means feel free to share examples of such outstanding melodeon playing, but next time please add a bit more explanation making it clear that you're sharing a link to someone else's playing.

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