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F/Bb
« on: May 13, 2019, 04:22:46 PM »

I see this tuning mentioned on the melnet layouts page, but I've never seen one.
Why have I not seen one, and why haven't I got one?

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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2019, 04:53:52 PM »

Its quite rare among older Hohners.  The only modern instrument I've seen in action in FBb was in the hands of Bernard Loffet which he used in a duo with a clarinet player.
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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2019, 04:56:05 PM »

I have one for sale. Paolo Soprani 2 voice. 1950s, stepped keyboard. £450 plus £20 UK postage.
I'll upload some photos dreckly.
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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2019, 04:59:00 PM »

Oh Rees, don't do that to me. I am broke. Might stretch to a set of reeds, I have a couple of donor bodies (Hohner)

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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2019, 05:08:04 PM »

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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2019, 05:09:01 PM »

Same problem here, but no Moon Carrot.

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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2019, 07:20:37 PM »

Sir John; Theo also has one, which he played beautifully at the "Tutor's Concert" at Wensleydale on Saturday night. It sounded gorgeous! (Unless someone snapped it up?)
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Ha, sorry folks. I shall investigate but it's probably something to do with my dear grandson!
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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2019, 07:40:06 PM »

Sir John; Theo also has one, which he played beautifully at the "Tutor's Concert" at Wensleydale on Saturday night. It sounded gorgeous! (Unless someone snapped it up?)

Yes it was snapped up the following morning.
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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2019, 07:52:05 PM »

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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2019, 11:14:22 PM »

I have one too, it's a 3 voice MML with a stop on treble side Italian box,it is a common key in Italy F/Bb(F/Sib) BIG FAT sound  (:)
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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2019, 07:39:04 AM »

So the tonic F is a low F I assume..blimey. Barely within audible range  :o

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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2019, 09:57:15 AM »

Here is a Koch F/Bb on ebay

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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2019, 09:59:29 AM »

It's the Bb aspect that attracts me, as it's my favourite key for singing, and although I have 2 Bb/Eb boxes, having Bb as the home key would be that bit more comfortable.

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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2019, 10:02:49 AM »

So the tonic F is a low F I assume..blimey. Barely within audible range  :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ww_C0wjXGA
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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2019, 10:09:21 AM »

Glorious sound!  I wish I hadn't sold mine.
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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2019, 10:17:18 AM »

So the tonic F is a low F I assume..blimey. Barely within audible range  :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ww_C0wjXGA

Yes, the box is a whole tone below G/C.
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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2019, 12:12:24 PM »

Here's a proper link to the Paolo Soprani.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17p5eeG556hmqiKxi5fKPkyIvzQ_PpxzL?usp=sharing

That model is highly sought after in Ireland. Pity about the stepped keyboard though..
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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2019, 12:56:20 PM »

F/Bb sounds great with the Lachenal voice on Streb.  Has a real grunt to it.  :M
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Re: F/Bb
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2019, 02:47:59 PM »

Here's a proper link to the Paolo Soprani.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17p5eeG556hmqiKxi5fKPkyIvzQ_PpxzL?usp=sharing

That model is highly sought after in Ireland. Pity about the stepped keyboard though..

Even though it's a 21-button, and only 2-voice?
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