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Re: The VMP Roose MS Project
« Reply #180 on: September 04, 2019, 12:04:31 AM »

Just tidying up my last set of abc's

anyone care to say how this is spelled?

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Re: The VMP Roose MS Project
« Reply #181 on: September 04, 2019, 08:21:47 AM »

I've seen the tune elsewhere as Tom Tolly's Hornpipe.
(The first 5 notes don't look right - usually a third lower!)
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Re: The VMP Roose MS Project
« Reply #182 on: September 04, 2019, 08:34:03 AM »

I've seen the tune elsewhere as Tom Tolly's Hornpipe.
(The first 5 notes don't look right - usually a third lower!)

Yes, I have seen it under three groups of names, Tom Tolley's  (Joshua Jackson), Tom Fowler's (Winder's) and General Wayne's March (someone on the session) and various permutations of these. O'Niell's calls it Tom Tully.

I have never seen it spelled as Tulliss or Tullifs, though. I can't remember seeing the F for s thing elsewhere in Roose so I have it as Tollifs, but I'm not sure.

I guess it will get another note acknowledging my ignorance.
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Re: The VMP Roose MS Project
« Reply #183 on: September 04, 2019, 08:45:48 AM »

Something very obvious in Buttrey was then we were still in randomly spelt names, using variations on phonetic spellings.
Though a much later manuscript, presumably we were still in a period of phonetic spelling?

Or.... then as now, you learn a tune and name from someone and perhaps they haven't got it quite right, either the dots or name?
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Re: The VMP Roose MS Project
« Reply #184 on: September 04, 2019, 09:54:11 AM »

Yes, Tom Tolley's spelt phonetically, which is evidence for oral transmission.
I would put that as
T:Tom Tolliss Hornpipe (it has been pointed out elsewhere that long s should be just be s and not f, unless we're trying to be amusing)
then again spelt as per normal
T:Tom Tolley's Hornpipe
I don't think it needs ",aka" as its not an alternative title, only an alternative spelling for the index.

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Re: The VMP Roose MS Project
« Reply #185 on: September 04, 2019, 10:50:38 AM »

I've seen the tune elsewhere as Tom Tolly's Hornpipe.
(The first 5 notes don't look right - usually a third lower!)

It's also in Aird's Airs as 'Tom Tullus's Hornpipe', and it's in 2/4. The firſt bar-and-a-bit
are different too.

5 minutes later: Yeah, thought so, we play it in the Beech Band Seſsion, coupled with
the Glouceſter Hornpipe - different again...
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Re: The VMP Roose MS Project
« Reply #186 on: September 18, 2019, 07:47:40 PM »

The John Roose manuscript has now been completed and the results can be found here:-
http://www.cpartington.plus.com/Links/ChrisPartingtonsLinksPage.html
A huge thank you to all the transcribers.
Please have a look and report any howlers.
Now I'm going to lie down for a bit.
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