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Box disposal?
« on: January 16, 2020, 07:10:05 PM »

Well I was feeling a bit off colour and a friend observed that I'm no spring chicken so it got me thinking.  When my body finally realises that the brain gave up years ago, what will happen to my instruments?  Now my only close relative is my brother who is a classical musician (woodwind) and he doesn't rate any of my collection at all so I don't want him selling them to a "music shop" for a fiver.  To be honest amongst my friends and acquaintances I can't think of many who would improve their playing by having a better box so even if I gave one to a friend that leaves a selection of Castagnaries, a Dino Binci, Hohners, etc for disposal.

Ideally they should go FOC to someone who will do them proud (better than I have!).   I guess that means appointing a person who doesn't need them to distribute them as and when a deserving soul shows up.  Has anyone any thoughts on the best way to re-home the collection when the day comes?

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2020, 07:16:39 PM »

I have done this for an ex-member on melnet, since he knew his day was approaching he asked me to dispose of the boxes for his wife who would not know where to start. I bought a couple and sold the rest on melnet, but they were only cheapy Hohners, guess it would be more difficult with boxes that have serious value.

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Re: Box disposal?
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2020, 07:28:24 PM »

Or offer them to a teaching organisation for example Halsway Manor, or East Anglian Trad Music Trust, and I’m sure there are many more.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2020, 07:59:06 PM »

I too have pondered what my partner will do with my Hohnerama, My first thought was to tell her to contact Theo, (as he is my nearest suitable person) and arrange for him to sell them. Can't afford to donate them,, we're not that well off.


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Re: Box disposal?
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2020, 08:04:53 PM »

Donating to an organisation is good, but giving it for free to a person can be a bit of an issue.
I got a piano accordion given to me before I started with the melodeon. As I'm not playing it, my options of getting rid of it are quite limited, I can't sell and I can't just give it away to someone who will. The box is not in good enough shape to be donated to an organisation but also not in a bad enough shape to justify cannibalisation.
So at the moment, I'm just stuck with a PA.
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Re: Box disposal?
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2020, 08:26:43 PM »

"I'm just stuck with a PA."

Just as long as you keep it separate form the melodeons, it should be OK! Don't want any infection spreading, do we?
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2020, 08:58:47 PM »

This is food for thought. I think donating instruments to a folk music trust of some kind would be good - if need be the instruments could be sold on to raise money, but even better if they could be used by aspiring young musicians.
This is just blue sky thinking on my part (possibly the product of the odd glass!), but would there be any mileage in setting up a Melodeon specific trust ?

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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2020, 09:29:04 PM »

Ideally they should go FOC to someone who will do them proud (better than I have!).   
If you're happy to see them off free of charge; donate them to a school, or a charity.

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2020, 09:33:40 PM »

It's sad but true that we all eventually have to be pragmatic about where the future lies and I applaud you for giving thought to this.

For instruments that are useable but have no real value then I would be looking at local schools for donation. Not every kid want's to play guitar. For more valuable instruments then I personally would be looking at the beneficiaries of my estate to try and realise the monetary value. I'm guessing that shops or trustworthy retailers who would sell on a commission basis would be worth exploring.

I have 7 guitars a few of which I would donate and the rest I would be looking to sell. The cream of the crop is a 1963 Gibson ES335. I would not be giving that to a school....lol. Having said that, if my grandson showed promise on guitar then my old Custom Shop Stratocaster would be something for him to remember me by.
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Re: Box disposal?
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2020, 09:36:48 PM »

"I'm just stuck with a PA."

Just as long as you keep it separate form the melodeons, it should be OK! Don't want any infection spreading, do we?
Luckily it's in my brother's flat, so no risk.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2020, 09:37:13 PM »

As someone who has folk groups alive and well in a high school (a Ceilidh group - for want of a better term) and a Northumbrian pipes group, we do have young musicians with great potential. I'm sure there are other schools in similar situations. I'd advise having a chat with a school whilst you are well - it's too easy for instruments to be stored badly or undervalued - so a good covering letter could be drafted on how to look after the boxes.
There are also regional folk groups outside of school - there's one in Hexham (name changes with every generation, my son was in it when it was '4th Generation', but it has been called various things including a very successful year, Gigue Fish), there's also the local Ranters youth group.
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Re: Box disposal?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2020, 09:38:59 PM »

An interesting starting point for a conversation about donating instruments to rising young musicians would be to consider how many young melodeonists there are in your community.  In some parts of world there is an infrastructure to support and encourage young musicians exploring and supporting traditional music.  Here in Maine I'd be hard pressed to find good homes for my instruments were I to try and donate them (when the time comes!).  Across the border in Quebec I'd have better luck finding folks who could make good use of them.  Likewise, in Newfoundland there seems to be a pretty lively cross-generation transfer of knowledge and interest. 
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Re: Box disposal?
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2020, 07:57:37 AM »

Retired repairers disposing of spare parts and wrecked doner boxes is a similar issue. Too good for the tip; not worth the cost of shipping.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2020, 02:28:42 PM »

i would volunteer Pete Ward of Acorn music he has some experience of doing this sort of thing and is always helpful,  well worth getting in touch
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2020, 02:51:55 PM »

Can always be used to warm someone's toes for a bit;)



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Re: Box disposal?
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2020, 06:17:27 PM »

I've pondered this as well, and reached the conclusion that I should just leave my executors with a list of reputable melodeon retailers!

Unless you can gift an instrument to someone or a trust you know personally, I feel selling an instrument through a reputable dealer is the most reliable way of that instrument getting to a player who will play and appreciate it. The proceeds can then be donated to a charity if you so wish. Almost all charities prefer cash to gifts-in-kind which frequently come with conditions attached e.g. this instrument is to help a promising young player.

But that's for the future  (:)  :||: :||: :||:





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Re: Box disposal?
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2020, 06:42:55 PM »

I've pondered this as well, and reached the conclusion that I should just leave my executors with a list of reputable melodeon retailers!

Unless you can gift an instrument to someone or a trust you know personally, I feel selling an instrument through a reputable dealer is the most reliable way of that instrument getting to a player who will play and appreciate it. The proceeds can then be donated to a charity if you so wish. Almost all charities prefer cash to gifts-in-kind which frequently come with conditions attached e.g. this instrument is to help a promising young player.

But that's for the future  (:)  :||: :||: :||:
Of course that way means that they also go to people who can afford them- which may not be your point. If they are boxes you don't already play, perhaps you could enjoy some time seeking out young players to apply for (even audition for) a long term loan. It's probably best not to gift them entirely as you might find that they get sold to finance another venture, such as university life etc. Long term load with strings attached (maybe that they need to be insured etc.). I don't have idle boxes so that's not a consideration - perhaps you don't either.
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2020, 06:54:23 PM »

Ideally they should go FOC to someone who will do them proud (better than I have!).   I guess that means appointing a person who doesn't need them to distribute them as and when a deserving soul shows up.  Has anyone any thoughts on the best way to re-home the collection when the day comes?

Rob.

I would pick up the suggestion from Playandteach in the previous post and start now to think about gradually finding new homes for your instruments while you are still of sound mind and body.  That way you get to enjoy the process yourself, you can take your time and you save work and worry for your executors.  A friend of mine who died recently did that with some instruments and I think the family found it helpful.  If you don't want to make outright gifts you can make long term loans, and put a Letter of Wishes with your Will so that your executors know what you want to happen, eg the loan to become a gift.
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2020, 07:23:37 PM »

"Long term loan and a letter of wishes with the will " sound like a great idea to me thanks Theo
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2020, 09:06:16 PM »

Difficult decisions, certainly! But you'd better watch out, Theo; you could well end up with all my junk to add to your's!
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