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 Rough location of our members

I prefer to know roughly where someone posts from
- 51 (68.9%)
I think we should conceal location
- 3 (4.1%)
I don’t care
- 20 (27%)

Total Members Voted: 73

Voting closed: April 19, 2020, 12:17:51 PM


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Chris Ryall

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This forum offers facility to show rough geographical location, and also to post as an individual or under pseudonym. I personally like to post in social media as myself. I stand by any opinion expressed, or will be in “learning” mode. I understand if others take a different view.

Location is more nuanced, and we’ve all seen examples where it mattered. This post was triggered by a “looking for tuition” post. I think location often does matter in that - eg I’m willing to help people local to me personally.

The same surely 🙄 applies to the occasional “session at the Kings Head next Thursday” posts. Weird not to put town in the title. But can be rescued by knowing the OP’s location

More generally, there are maybe 1000 different genres of melodeon In this at least rough geographical location seems a good idea? It really helps to know whether someone is in eg Sweden, UK, or Louisiana?

So … open to discussion 😀   Maybe Clive “Milton Keynes” or Theo “Gateshead UK” might like to come in early as we had a thread on this about a decade back, and social medial have evolved quite a lot since then

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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2020, 12:42:33 PM »

I agree with you, Chris - knowing where someone is based can be an important factor in responses to posts.  I have "Squeezing in the Cyprus sunshine" in my signature line, if anyone ever notices.  Another forum I frequent - totally unrelated to music-making - includes "Location" (which can be as general as just a country or as specific as you want it to be) as part of your profile - I confess I haven't looked to see if it's possible to show it here along with the profile picture & poster's chosen online identity.

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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2020, 12:46:36 PM »

While this is a social platform, there is not really any privacy here.

The fact that people will post just the worst, most hateful garbage on eg Facebook, with their real names, often for all to see, convinced me that eschewing anonymity on the Internet protects us from nothing, in terms of how people’s behave.

I don’t think having the location like that necessarily helps, especially for what would often be a ‘quite willing to travel long distances for a good session’ community. It was always within people’s power to post the needed information the first time. I think people should be given the time to figure out what’s right for them when they join any community. If anyone wants to, they can also add their location to the personal text or signature in their forum profile, too.

I’d worry it could provide as much confusing information as helpful information, and/or put people off. Using my real name here put me off, I wasn’t certain of what would be best for me. Flip side I have had people message me and become friends because of location information posted on this forum, so, idk.
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2020, 01:33:57 PM »

I agree many of us would be "willing to travel quite long distances for a good session", but I'd guess very few would be prepared to do, say, a 10,000 mile round trip.  I live 2000 miles, give or take, from the UK and I'm by no means the furthest-flung of our participants.  Knowing roughly where a poster is located is very useful if you want to recommend, for instance, a repairer, teacher or retailer - or indeed a good session! Or to tell you there's no point in recommending a repairer in Copenhagen if the enquirer lives in Cape Town. 
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2020, 02:16:52 PM »

Voted don't care, but I have updated my profile as it was three house moves out of date.

Only reason location is relevant for me is sales.
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2020, 02:37:44 PM »

I prefer knowing. It's nice. But wouldn't compel it.
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2020, 04:05:45 PM »

Many of the regulars on the forum do have their general location available to others. Approximate location (even which continent!) is really useful when someone posts a 'for sale' or 'wanted' advertisement, or wants to know about lessons or sessions in their area.
 
But everyone's situation and comfort zone is different. It shouldn't be compulsory to divulge even a general location.
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2020, 04:06:00 PM »

Fully agree its helpful to know an approximate location of members, it does not have to be the full address. This helps at all times for sales, sessions and general info that may or may not be relavent to the posting. At all times I'm happy to say I'm in the Swamps of Chertsey, Surrey, England. If you want my exact location or address just follow the increasing number of people in the area with cotton wool in their ears.
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2020, 04:07:38 PM »

This forum offers facility to show rough geographical location, and also to post as an individual or under pseudonym. I personally like to post in social media as myself. I stand by any opinion expressed, or will be in “learning” mode. I understand if others take a different view.

Location is more nuanced, and we’ve all seen examples where it mattered. This post was triggered by a “looking for tuition” post. I think location often does matter in that - eg I’m willing to help people local to me personally.

The same surely 🙄 applies to the occasional “session at the Kings Head next Thursday” posts. Weird not to put town in the title. But can be rescued by knowing the OP’s location

More generally, there are maybe 1000 different genres of melodeon In this at least rough geographical location seems a good idea? It really helps to know whether someone is in eg Sweden, UK, or Louisiana?

So … open to discussion 😀   Maybe Clive “Milton Keynes” or Theo “Gateshead UK” might like to come in early as we had a thread on this about a decade back, and social medial have evolved quite a lot since then

Chris Ryall “Wirral UK” 😀

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A few comments:

1. I think the extent of the information is up to the indiivdual. I don't care, personaly, but I know others do. Especially those in occupations where it could...erm...become a weakness. e.g., the police.

2. To be fair, the triggering post wasn't "looking for tuition". Quite the opposite, really.

3. There is always the option of a pm.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2020, 05:25:31 PM by Tone Dumb Greg »
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2020, 04:38:40 PM »

I took "I don't care" because of a lack of the option "We should handle it like everywhere on the internet and in real life: Simply asking someone personally if we're interested in personal details about them, otherwise just letting them share what they want without forcing them to do so."
This is what I live by and I very much recommend this approach.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2020, 04:42:00 PM »

I took "I don't care" because of a lack of the option "We should handle it like everywhere on the internet and in real life: Simply asking someone personally if we're interested in personal details about them, otherwise just letting them share what they want without forcing them to do so."
This is what I live by and I very much recommend this approach.

Pretty much this.
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2020, 05:43:33 PM »

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The post above  is pretty much the way this forum has always been run:

1. There is a Location field in the personal profile

2 Use of the Location field is entirely voluntary

3 Members are at liberty to ask other members about their location where if it is relevant to a discussion eg about tuition, events or sales. Replies can be in public or private.

This topic has been well aired in the past.

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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2020, 05:45:20 PM »

2. To be fair, the triggering post wasn't "looking for tuition". Quite the opposite, really.

Not sure I understand this comment, but maybe you know something I don't,  Anyway, that's not really relevant. I'd welcome info about where people are based, but I certainly wouldn't want to make it obligatory.

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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2020, 06:04:42 PM »

Shouldn't we have had a poll as to whether or not we should have a poll, all feels a bit like an imposition based in a personal opinion.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2020, 06:06:35 PM by mory »
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2020, 06:32:42 PM »

I know I'm repeating myself, but I think it's important people to recognise  that it's not nice to pressure people into giving information, on line, that they don't offer freely.

There is always the option of a PM where it is really useful to know. Generally, it doesn't matter, beyond satisfying curiosity.
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2020, 07:32:05 PM »

I know I'm repeating myself, but I think it's important people to recognise  that it's not nice to pressure people into giving information, on line, that they don't offer freely.

There is always the option of a PM where it is really useful to know. Generally, it doesn't matter, beyond satisfying curiosity.


Where's the pressure?  No-one's suggesting it should be made compulsory.
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2020, 07:42:36 PM »

Where's the pressure?  No-one's suggesting it should be made compulsory.


Well why are we even discussing it then?
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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2020, 07:49:11 PM »

"Well why are we even discussing it the?"

Because (since it's been brought up) 78% of respondents would prefer to know what they view as harmless information about their fellow members and virtual friends, for perfectly valid reasons, which have already been mentioned.
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2020, 07:55:47 PM »

"Well why are we even discussing it the?"

Because (since it's been brought up) 78% of respondents would prefer to know what they view as harmless information about their fellow members and virtual friends, for perfectly valid reasons, which have already been mentioned.


Yep! I get that, but as a result of the poll we will either have to enforce revelation or continue with the status quo nad since we are going to continue with the status quo what is the point.

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Re: Should posters here “usually” have location in their profile?
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2020, 08:09:19 PM »

"Well why are we even discussing it the?"

Because (since it's been brought up) 78% of respondents would prefer to know what they view as harmless information about their fellow members and virtual friends, for perfectly valid reasons, which have already been mentioned.


Yep! I get that, but as a result of the poll we will either have to enforce revelation or continue with the status quo nad since we are going to continue with the status quo what is the point.

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