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Anne Dicks

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keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« on: June 24, 2020, 10:24:05 AM »

Can anyone point me to a keyboard layout for a Castagnari Lilly please?  It has a 4th button start and low notes on the left plus a couple of accidentals ...
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2020, 10:41:11 AM »

There's a D/G 4th button start Lilly layout on the Acorn Instruments website here:
https://www.acorninstruments.co.uk/listing.cfm?inst=3

For convenience, I've attached the layout below.
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2020, 01:01:03 PM »

Thank you!  That is great - my Lilly was delivered yesterday and it is beautiful.
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2020, 07:31:48 PM »

To be honest there is not one layout for the Lilly.  It can be ordered in many key combinations and various bass configurations.  As an example here is the layout for my 4th button start d/c# lilly.  Yours should have come with a layout chart specific for your instrument.  If not I would go back to who ever you got it from and ask them for it. 
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2020, 01:40:59 AM »

To be honest there is not one layout for the Lilly.  It can be ordered in many key combinations and various bass configurations.  As an example here is the layout for my 4th button start d/c# lilly.  Yours should have come with a layout chart specific for your instrument.  If not I would go back to who ever you got it from and ask them for it.

I think it is generally understood that instruments 'can be ordered in many key combinations and various bass configurations', and I would expect that the OP would have requested a D/G Lilly with 4th button start.

I've never known Castagnari instruments (or any other make for that matter) to arrive accompanied by a layout chart. However, there are generic layout charts on the Castagnari website and specific charts on the Acorn Instruments website which is where I directed the OP to, as it answered her question exactly. 

Looks like your layout chart had been prepared for you by The button Box as a one-off.
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2020, 09:06:24 AM »

here is the layout for my 4th button start d/c# lilly.

Apologies if this is off topic, but I have to ask...I don't think I have ever seen a chart like that. What do the numbers represent?  I'm sure the answer is obvious, but I'm not getting it.

[Edit: I can see that they ascend in sequence with a chromatic scale, but not why]
« Last Edit: June 27, 2020, 09:10:52 AM by Tone Dumb Greg »
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2020, 09:23:35 AM »

Apologies if this is off topic, but I have to ask...I don't think I have ever seen a chart like that. What do the numbers represent?  I'm sure the answer is obvious, but I'm not getting it.
Just a method of identifying the reed without needing the note or the octave so what I would refer to as D4 is just 17

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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2020, 09:27:08 AM »

Apologies if this is off topic, but I have to ask...I don't think I have ever seen a chart like that. What do the numbers represent?  I'm sure the answer is obvious, but I'm not getting it.
Just a method of identifying the reed without needing the note or the octave so what I would refer to as D4 is just 17

Thank you Lester. Is this Castagnari's standard designation, do you know? (I can't afford to look at posh box layouts  :D :D :D)
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2020, 09:53:21 AM »

Apologies if this is off topic, but I have to ask...I don't think I have ever seen a chart like that. What do the numbers represent?  I'm sure the answer is obvious, but I'm not getting it.
Just a method of identifying the reed without needing the note or the octave so what I would refer to as D4 is just 17

Thank you Lester. Is this Castagnari's standard designation, do you know? (I can't afford to look at posh box layouts  :D :D :D )
Think it's the reed manufacturer's nomenclature, first met it when speccing the reeds for my Pariselle's

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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2020, 10:09:59 AM »

Apologies if this is off topic, but I have to ask...I don't think I have ever seen a chart like that. What do the numbers represent?  I'm sure the answer is obvious, but I'm not getting it.
Just a method of identifying the reed without needing the note or the octave so what I would refer to as D4 is just 17

Thank you Lester. Is this Castagnari's standard designation, do you know? (I can't afford to look at posh box layouts  :D :D :D )
Think it's the reed manufacturer's nomenclature, first met it when speccing the reeds for my Pariselle's

Thanks
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2020, 10:57:46 AM »

Apologies if this is off topic, but I have to ask...I don't think I have ever seen a chart like that. What do the numbers represent?  I'm sure the answer is obvious, but I'm not getting it.
Just a method of identifying the reed without needing the note or the octave so what I would refer to as D4 is just 17
Here's my Pariselle treble reed order for an example



Thank you Lester. Is this Castagnari's standard designation, do you know? (I can't afford to look at posh box layouts  :D :D :D )
Think it's the reed manufacturer's nomenclature, first met it when speccing the reeds for my Pariselle's

Thanks

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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2020, 11:09:38 AM »

Ah! Now I see the point.
Thanks again.
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2020, 11:15:43 AM »

My Argentinian Hering G/C had all the reeds numbered, it's the only time I've seen this.
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2020, 12:16:18 PM »

It's pretty much a standard system in the Italian accordion industry of giving an unambiguous description of each pitch.  Harmonikas in Czech have a similar system but use different numbers so be careful!
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2020, 12:33:02 PM »

What happens if the pitch required drops below reed #1 (which I think is A#2 edited to correct typo). e.g., for a low octave G (which I would call G2) in an LMM system...or doesn't that happen?
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2020, 12:52:17 PM »

A two octaves below middle C is 0, then you can either use negative numbers or prefix the previous octave with a zero eg:

A 00
Bb 01
B 02
C03
C# 04
D 05
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Re: keyboard layout of Castagnari Lilly
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2020, 01:02:41 PM »

Thank you Theo.
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