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A/D with low notes: is this right?
« on: July 02, 2020, 05:10:27 PM »

Would someone be so kind as to proof read this?
It looks OK to me (<<musical theory idiot) but not sure of the accidentals and the 3rd button on the A row.
Very much appreciated. 
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Re: A/D with low notes: is this right?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2020, 07:45:50 PM »

You have a B major chord where I would expect to see D major - is that a typo?
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Re: A/D with low notes: is this right?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2020, 08:03:19 PM »

not sure of the accidentals and the 3rd button on the A row.

Third button on the A row is what I would expect (and the same as what I have on my G-scale D/G box)

Your accidentals are the opposite way round to what I have, but I think most people seem to favour the way round you have them - I'm sure a few people will be along presently to comment on this!
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Re: A/D with low notes: is this right?
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2020, 01:18:19 PM »

Andy, thank you.
B chord is wrong, should be D+.
Accidentals:  I have the Eb/F on the A row since I have G#/A# on the D row of a D/G box and it seems right to me.
(Bluebell Polka is the tune that seems to make it natural, G# on the push))
On my D/G box, I also have the G row accidental as D#/F but I don't use it much; some members say it would be more useful reversed, that's why I was trying out the C/Bb instead (i.e. reversed).
Do you have a tune (not too hard) I could try out that uses the G row accidental (on a D/G box)?
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Re: A/D with low notes: is this right?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2020, 07:09:48 PM »

'Nother question regarding accidentals:
It seems that "usually" the accidentals are set for the 4th or 5th octave.
If a box is being set up with ability to play "low" (Anahata style) could one set the accidentals for the 3rd octave?
This would be the D row 1st button on an A/D box.
Regrets for all the questions, but have never played an A/D box (except for current Streb experiments).  Once you put it into real reeds, it's a lot harder to change...
TNX.
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Re: A/D with low notes: is this right?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2020, 03:46:07 PM »

If a box is being set up with ability to play "low" (Anahata style) could one set the accidentals for the 3rd octave?

I would think that you probably can, though you'd want to confirm this with a melodeon fettler.

However, bear in mind that the A/D box is already lower in pitch than your D/G box. And the bottom octave on your D-scale A/D box will really be quite low in pitch! I would have thought that you would want your accidentals in the octave where you are most often going to be playing your tunes. Are you really likely to spend a lot of time growling around in that bottom octave?
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Re: A/D with low notes: is this right?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2020, 05:28:22 PM »

"growling around.........?"

I love to growl around in those lower octaves!
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Re: A/D with low notes: is this right?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2020, 01:05:02 PM »

Like Winston says, those low buttons make some nice sounds.  I just don't know how an A/D will end up being played. 
For "Parsons Farewell" one could use the A# in the low octave.
Playing a GCF like I started out, one does play higher up the keyboard, like you say.
But I guess Winston has got my number:  I so far see the A/D as an growling D/G (!)
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Re: A/D with low notes: is this right?
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2020, 02:57:45 PM »

Like Winston says, those low buttons make some nice sounds.  I just don't know how an A/D will end up being played. 
For "Parsons Farewell" one could use the A# in the low octave.
Playing a GCF like I started out, one does play higher up the keyboard, like you say.
But I guess Winston has got my number:  I so far see the A/D as an growling D/G (!)
A&D is my preferred tuning for a 4th apart box. 3rd button start and no mucking about with 4th button start which on a low pitch box really cuts into your useful top notes.
What I would consider is flattened leading 7ths at the low end of both rows ....That would give you (A row) GAB&c and (D row) CDE providing you with a low octave in Gmajor- matching the bottom end of the fiddle range.
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Re: A/D with low notes: is this right?
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2020, 08:15:18 PM »

Thanks all, and Peadar especially.
Went back to my seldom reference O'Neill's and Coles "One Thousand Fiddle Tunes" and was (not sure why) amazed at the huge majority of tunes in A, D and G-minor (played as one-flat, right?).
Nearly none would really need the low G-scale. (!)
I guess I have been looking at melodeon music for the D/G transposed (my POV) rather than tunes from the prospective fiddlers POV.
I've always understood both of the above to be American-ized Irish music and this is the way a lot of fiddlers play the tunes in OT tradition (banjo players, too, capo up 2 frets).
More likely to use the A/D melodeon range of G rather than low D.
As far as I can tell, pointed out by P.
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