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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2020, 11:57:28 AM »

That's a great way to play it, Gary. Plenty of zip.

Thanks!

On a G/C box this tune is playable in C and G, so what are the pro's and con's of either? I'm thinking of LH chord options or RH melody bellow reversals? The difference of key makes a big difference to this piece that I like a lot.

The original is in F (or, at least, the Dervish version which I learned it from is in F). I transposed to C and played it essentially as a one row tune (with one exception), using just the normal I, IV, and V. I have played it in G (or Bb on another box using "outside row" fingerings), but just replicated my C chords by crossing rows. I notice there is a lot of variation in the way this is played -- the sign of a good tune.
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2020, 10:09:19 AM »

Can anyone provide the ABC for this?
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2020, 10:21:43 AM »

Can anyone provide the ABC for this?

What key? Here's one in G. Other options are available.

X:1
T:Josefin’s Dopvals
T:Josefin’s Baptism / Christening Waltz
T:Josefin’s Waltz
C:Roger Talroth
S:Väsen
O:Swedish
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:Gmaj clef=treble
D|DGA|Bdc|BAG|D2 E|C>CC|EGF|E3|D2 D|
|DGA|Bdc|BAG|D2 E|C>CC| EFG|A3-|ABc||
dBd|g2 f|e3|d2 B|ced|cBA|B>cB|ABc|
|BAG|F2 G|G3|CDC|B,DG|FEF|G3-|G2 D||
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2020, 10:34:18 AM »

The problem I have playing this in G on my D/Gs is those middle Cs. I've been fudging it by playing the upper C with low E, against C bass or chord - seems to work but perhaps its a tune for the G/C...

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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2020, 10:44:30 AM »

It may sit more naturally on the GC.  Alternatively if you look on the session you'll see there is a version in D which jumps octaves to get round the problem.  Poster plays flute or pipes, I think.
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2020, 11:05:16 AM »

The problem I have playing this in G on my D/Gs is those middle Cs. I've been fudging it by playing the upper C with low E, against C bass or chord - seems to work but perhaps its a tune for the G/C...

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Have you tried playing the A half in  the upper octave and dropping to the the middle one for the B part?1

edit. I take that back. Doesn't work in G. It works in D on a two voice though

X:1
T:Josefins Dopvals
T:Josefins Baptism / Christening Waltz
T:Josefin's Waltz
C:Roger Talroth
S:Väsen
O:Swedish
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:Dmaj clef=treble
A|:"D"Ade|"D"fag|"D"fed|"D"A2 B|"G"G>GG|"G"Bdc|"G"B3|"D"A2 A|
"D"Ade|"D"fag|"D"fed|"D"A2 B|"G"G>GG|"G"Bcd|"A"e3-|1"A"e2A|2"A"efg|]
"D"AFA|"D"d2c|"G"B3|"D"A2F|"G"GBA|"G"GFE|"D"F>GF|"A"EFG|
"D"fed|"A"c2 d|"D"d3|"G"GAG|"D"FAd|"A"cBc|"D"d3-|1"A"dFG:|2"D"d2 A|]
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2020, 11:30:38 AM »

I'm "playing" this on a G/C in the key of G, and I think that it sits really nicely pitch wise. I've noticed though that there's videos of G/C players playing it in C, which not in any way being a reflection of their performance sounds too high to my ears. But, their key choice could be down to LH bass and chord options, so would changing the key on a D/G box help in any way?
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2020, 12:51:42 PM »

Hi all, this is my version of Josefins Dopvals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdF3GQRf8fg
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2020, 01:43:36 PM »

Hi all, this is my version of Josefins Dopvals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdF3GQRf8fg

Wow. Very interesting chord choices! I'd love to know more!
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2020, 03:57:24 PM »


Have you tried playing the A half in  the upper octave and dropping to the the middle one for the B part?1

edit. I take that back. Doesn't work in G. It works in D on a two voice though


That's what the version I mentioned on thesession does.
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2020, 05:48:51 PM »


Have you tried playing the A half in  the upper octave and dropping to the the middle one for the B part?1

edit. I take that back. Doesn't work in G. It works in D on a two voice though


That's what the version I mentioned on thesession does.

 ;D ;D ;D
I looked at it just after I posted. Sorry. Yes that's exactly what I meant and how I'm trying to play it, except I'm in C, rather than D. Same difference, though (i.e. same buttons).

I would be interested to know if it works in G on an LMM DG. Or, have I already missed an example?
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2020, 01:50:49 PM »

My rather brash attempt at Josefins, which owes much in concept, if not execution, to Gary Chapins rather nice version.

It's the first time I've made a serious effort to play something on the pressed wood one row. I had to play quite hard to sound the A note, which seems to have a lazy reed. Even then it's a bit reluctant. Memo to self: book a trip to sunny St Ives.

https://soundcloud.com/greg-bradfield-smith/josefins-dopvals-07-08-20-1
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2020, 02:08:07 PM »

I had to play quite hard to sound the A note

I'm hearing a G that is playing a single reed instead of two. Is that the one you mean?
Could be a bit of dust sticking in the reed or a valve that has lightly glued itself to the plate, both easy to fix.
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2020, 02:10:23 PM »

https://accordeonaire.com/2020/08/07/josefins-dopvals-by-roger-tallroth/

One of my favorites. Played it straight and quick like a French waltz. I love the emotional, winsome, sentimental versions (looking at you, Dervish). Just trying it different.

Very enjoyable and lively version.  I like your clean playing style and your attack.  Thanks for posting!
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2020, 02:14:29 PM »

My rather brash attempt at Josefins, which owes much in concept, if not execution, to Gary Chapins rather nice version.

It's the first time I've made a serious effort to play something on the pressed wood one row. I had to play quite hard to sound the A note, which seems to have a lazy reed. Even then it's a bit reluctant. Memo to self: book a trip to sunny St Ives.

https://soundcloud.com/greg-bradfield-smith/josefins-dopvals-07-08-20-1

Great! Though I did find myself tuning in for that A and also anticipating the octave changes.
I think an attacking lively style like yours  is what the tune is asking for.  Thanks.
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2020, 02:48:57 PM »

I had to play quite hard to sound the A note

I'm hearing a G that is playing a single reed instead of two. Is that the one you mean?
Could be a bit of dust sticking in the reed or a valve that has lightly glued itself to the plate, both easy to fix.

That's it. When I said A I was thinking in  D speak, not C.


https://soundcloud.com/greg-bradfield-smith/josefins-dopvals-07-08-20-1

Great! Though I did find myself tuning in for that A and also anticipating the octave changes.
I think an attacking lively style like yours  is what the tune is asking for.  Thanks.

Thank you  ;D
It was good fun. On reflection, I think the octave change would have worked better if I had included the lead in notes both times through, but I forgot. When the error happened I played on through it, both times. I'll live with it.
I may try a thoughtful and reflective approach later on.

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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2020, 01:23:30 PM »

Here's my attempt.  Rather like Gary, I first fell in love with this on Dervish's 1996 recording with Väsen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnALHZhQVIo
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2020, 03:34:57 PM »

Here's my attempt.  Rather like Gary, I first fell in love with this on Dervish's 1996 recording with Väsen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnALHZhQVIo

The playing is so good but the autofocus constantly zooming in and out makes my head dizzy. Could only listen and not watch but it was a great pleasure nonetheless!
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« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2020, 05:02:55 PM »

Thanks Fred. Being fairly visually illiterate, I hadn't even noticed.  I obviously need lessons in making videos.  Will seek guidance.
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Re: Tune of the Month for August 2020: Josefins Dopvals
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2020, 08:15:33 PM »

I had to look 3 times before I could see the changes in focus that Fred's talking about.
I suspect I won't be able to unsee them now.
The first two times I was simply impressed at how sharp the picture was.
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