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What tune shall we play in November?

Autumn in Glenaffric
- 4 (5.1%)
Faraway
- 2 (2.6%)
Hesleyside Reel (or air)
- 4 (5.1%)
L'Inconnu d'Limoise
- 31 (39.7%)
Midnight on the Water
- 5 (6.4%)
Orange in Bloom / Sherbourne Waltz
- 1 (1.3%)
Princess Royal (any version)
- 24 (30.8%)
Wheatley Trunkles
- 4 (5.1%)
Woodland Revels
- 3 (3.8%)

Total Members Voted: 74

Voting closed: October 31, 2009, 07:34:23 PM


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Author Topic: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise  (Read 83208 times)

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #240 on: November 18, 2009, 09:50:03 AM »

Excuse my ignorance but what is de-clubbed, or should I say what does club mean?


Club melodeons have the same note on the third button of the octave (D/E on the G row) so they play the D in both directions. Sort of sensible as it gives you a D in both directions and the E is available in the correct direction on the D row - mind you makes them mostly unplayable for mere mortals.

Not to be confused with the Dutch modification which just swaps the D/E reed around to give suck D and blow D  :P

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #241 on: November 18, 2009, 09:53:51 AM »

Here's my first attempt at the LIDL tune - a bit more rushed in the 2nd half than I would have liked, due to nerves!


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I love your interpretation - and the box is gorgeous  (:)
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #242 on: November 18, 2009, 10:17:47 AM »

Ah well, here's me. I can only say in my own defence that I haven't been playing melodeon for very long ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hje6fqbOJl0
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #243 on: November 18, 2009, 10:19:12 AM »

Ah well, here's me. I can only say in my own defence that I haven't been playing melodeon for very long ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hje6fqbOJl0
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #244 on: November 18, 2009, 10:44:41 AM »

Excuse my ignorance but what is de-clubbed, or should I say what does club mean?


Club melodeons have the same note on the third button of the octave (D/E on the G row) so they play the D in both directions. Sort of sensible as it gives you a D in both directions and the E is available in the correct direction on the D row - mind you makes them mostly unplayable for mere mortals.

Not to be confused with the Dutch modification which just swaps the D/E reed around to give suck D and blow D  :P

Thanks Lester.....think I like the sound of 'de-clubbed'  (:)

Cheers

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #245 on: November 18, 2009, 10:47:54 AM »

Ah well, here's me. I can only say in my own defence that I haven't been playing melodeon for very long ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hje6fqbOJl0
says video is private

Oops, probably a good thing! Think I have de-privated it now.

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #246 on: November 18, 2009, 11:29:18 AM »

Ah well, here's me. I can only say in my own defence that I haven't been playing melodeon for very long ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hje6fqbOJl0

I thought that was fantastic! ... very nicely played.
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #247 on: November 18, 2009, 11:39:22 AM »

Ah well, here's me. I can only say in my own defence that I haven't been playing melodeon for very long ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hje6fqbOJl0
says video is private

Oops, probably a good thing! Think I have de-privated it now.


Sounded good....much better than my attempt :)

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #248 on: November 18, 2009, 12:48:03 PM »

Excuse my ignorance but what is de-clubbed, or should I say what does club mean?
The club system is an modified tone layout: http://info.melodeon.net/files/site/CFclub30.gif

The advantage of the third row with accidentials and reversed notes should be clear. The reason for the one button with the same note on push and pull on the main row is: this note is part of the tonic chord (push) and the dominant chord (pull). It does existe on the lowest octave on push and on pull but is absent in the middle and high octave.

There is an additional chord on the left hand side which completes all three major chords for playing in the subdominant key.

It is still widely used e. g. in Germany, but it may be that the advantages of this lay-out are more relevant for the playing of german music than british (because melodic and harmonic structures and chording customs are different).

To de-club a club is like taking its soul out.  :'(

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #249 on: November 18, 2009, 03:14:01 PM »

Actually there is still a pull-D on the first row (e/d) quite close to the c/c club-button
so I do not see a real reason for 'declubbing'
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #250 on: November 18, 2009, 03:22:38 PM »

Actually there is still a pull-D on the first row (e/d) quite close to the c/c club-button
so I do not see a real reason for 'declubbing'


If, like me, you have played a pull-E on that button for 25+ years it not being there is far too hard to contemplate.   ;D

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #251 on: November 18, 2009, 06:57:40 PM »

Ah well, here's me. I can only say in my own defence that I haven't been playing melodeon for very long ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hje6fqbOJl0

Well played - and I love the tone of the box  (:)
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #252 on: November 18, 2009, 07:52:18 PM »


Sounded good....much better than my attempt :)
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Thankyou, but not true that I sound better than you!! You must be turning a much more critical ear on yourself than you are on me  (:)
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #253 on: November 18, 2009, 07:59:31 PM »

Thanks for the kind comments :|||: I have really enjoyed learning LIDL, it is a beautiful piece of music which I wouldn't have known about were it not for TOTM!
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #254 on: November 19, 2009, 10:18:36 AM »


Sounded good....much better than my attempt :)

Thankyou, but not true that I sound better than you!! You must be turning a much more critical ear on yourself than you are on me  (:)
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #255 on: November 19, 2009, 08:55:04 PM »

Why is everyone with a G/C box playing the tune in the key of C? Why not the key of G?
I have some troubles with the chords in the end of the B part because of the usual 5th note on the C row (the reed WILL be turned next summer so that it becomes like an organetto!) if I don't remember wrong. Can anyone help?
I suck at playing in C on the 2-row. If I can't play it in G, I prefer to play it on the organetto and skip some basses... I'm simply not able in the key of C on the 2-row, I never find the appropriate notes other than using the C row only, which messes up trying to play chords. Dang. I don't think the appropriate time to learn to play in C is with a tune I haven't heard until yesterday.
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #256 on: November 19, 2009, 09:52:52 PM »

Why is everyone with a G/C box playing the tune in the key of C? Why not the key of G?
I have some troubles with the chords in the end of the B part because of the usual 5th note on the C row (the reed WILL be turned next summer so that it becomes like an organetto!) if I don't remember wrong. Can anyone help?
I suck at playing in C on the 2-row. If I can't play it in G, I prefer to play it on the organetto and skip some basses... I'm simply not able in the key of C on the 2-row, I never find the appropriate notes other than using the C row only, which messes up trying to play chords. Dang. I don't think the appropriate time to learn to play in C is with a tune I haven't heard until yesterday.

Love to hear it on an organetto, something new, something different   (:)  There is no WRONG in Tune of the Month just lots of different stuff to inspire people.

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #257 on: November 19, 2009, 10:15:06 PM »

I see now that my message was quite unclear ??? Does anyone know how to chord the B part if I play it in G on a G/C box?

I WILL try it on the organetto, though. There is no instrument as fun as the organetto! :|||: :|||: :|||: ;D
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #258 on: November 20, 2009, 08:38:21 AM »

Why is everyone with a G/C box playing the tune in the key of C? Why not the key of G?

I drive a G/C too,  though on the left side of the Channel ;) and had a go on my outer row

 http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,2762.msg32747.html#msg32747

Gavin has proven that you can do excellent melody and lovely phrasing on a single row. The impasse playing outer of 2 rows is to do with chords in the B music.  The long IV C chord bit puts the tune in lydian mode (F# against C base) and somehow gives the B part it's 'flight'. Basically you need to change bellows direction to get play tune, but you don't have a C chord on pull.

That doesn't stop you doing it outer row, but against a different bass you get a different sound.
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2009 - L'Inconnu de Limoise
« Reply #259 on: November 20, 2009, 08:53:11 AM »

Why is everyone with a G/C box playing the tune in the key of C? Why not the key of G?


With me it is only because the music I downloaded from diatojo.com is in C  (:)
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