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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #460 on: October 14, 2011, 01:56:32 AM »

I like the christmas theme (:) There are some lovely carols out there.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #461 on: October 19, 2011, 10:14:37 PM »

Just thought I'd put in my tuppence worth:

For some TOTMs I'd like to hear how people play Mad Moll of the Cheshire Hunt and Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel.
And for a ThOTM I'd like to suggest tunes from Australia.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #462 on: October 21, 2011, 03:32:34 PM »

Just thought I'd put in my tuppence worth:

For some TOTMs I'd like to hear how people play Mad Moll of the Cheshire Hunt and Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel.
And for a ThOTM I'd like to suggest tunes from Australia.

Nice TOTM suggestions; though looking at Beatrice Hill's, I'd call that Fiddler Locke's which is what I've heard it called on an All Blacked Up album, I've believe. Is it generally known by one name or the other?

Re: Australia, yes I've considered this for a while, but have been put off in the past because I don't really know many sources of Australian tunes. Is there anyone you think I should be listening to that I could learn a few Australian tunes off?

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #463 on: October 26, 2011, 08:11:51 PM »

Here's a suggestion for a future TOTM. A great Quebecois tune learnt from my friend Jake (brinwins on here).

X: 1
T: Rabbit Stew
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Gmaj
B3A GFGB|dBGB A4|ABcB ABcd|edef e2 d2|
B3A GFGB|dBGB A4|ABcB ABcd|e2 f2 g4:|
|:gdBc d2 ef|gdBc d4|dDDd DDdD |edef e2 d2|
gdBc d2 ef|gdBc d4|dDDd DDdD|e2 f2 g4:|

I guess it can be played at 'proper' speed, but it makes a very nice English smooth hornpipe too.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #464 on: November 02, 2011, 10:40:59 AM »

How about "Tunes From Valkyrie's Tunebook" as a theme?
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #465 on: November 02, 2011, 10:47:06 AM »

Heh, that search box doesn't work very well then.  I searched for Jubilo and nothing came up.

It is indeed completely useless :P
Make sure you're using one of the search boxes on the home page, otherwise you're just searching part of the forum. I keep making the same mistake though.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #466 on: November 02, 2011, 12:03:27 PM »

I've got a song somewhere called Christmas in Waikiki.  No idea how it'd work on Melodeon though.

Oddly enough, I was once in Waikiki at Christmas - it was a very strange experience, what with the artificial snow and holly and Santas (Santae?) ho-ho-hoing in the 28deg temperatures,and the "White Christmas" hula in the hotel bar......
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #467 on: November 12, 2011, 09:12:25 AM »

What about 'bear dance'? Would be intresting to hear it play different ways

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #468 on: November 12, 2011, 09:41:47 AM »

What about 'bear dance'? Would be intresting to hear it play different ways
Only if someone can provide the dots or ABC for the original Belgian(?) tune, not the simplified version that everybody plays here.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #469 on: November 13, 2011, 07:54:06 AM »


Re: Australia, yes I've considered this for a while, but have been put off in the past because I don't really know many sources of Australian tunes. Is there anyone you think I should be listening to that I could learn a few Australian tunes off?

Sorry, I didn't realise you were talking to me  ::)

Here are a few sources for Oz tunes on the web:
http://australianfolk.blogspot.com/
http://folkstream.com/songs.html
http://www.bushtraditions.org/sessions/nosuchthing.htm
http://www.wongawillicolonialdance.org.au/page/MusicBookResources/

Unfortunately some of my favourite books of Australian dance tune music are out of print now.  I'll ask around for some more suggestions ...
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #470 on: November 23, 2011, 06:48:37 AM »

What about 'bear dance'? Would be intresting to hear it play different ways
Only if someone can provide the dots or ABC for the original Belgian(?) tune, not the simplified version that everybody plays here.





   Hopefully someone will furnish us with the abc/dots wether it wins or not!
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #471 on: November 23, 2011, 08:05:15 AM »

   Hopefully someone will furnish us with the abc/dots wether it wins or not!

http://folktunefinder.com/tune/197579/ is something like what you usually hear in an English session.
http://folktunefinder.com/tune/4717/ is more like what I'm looking for. The trouble is I don't know exactly I'm looking for...

(there are several other variants on that site)
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #472 on: November 23, 2011, 08:58:08 AM »

Only if someone can provide the dots or ABC for the original Belgian(?) tune, not the simplified version that everybody plays here.

Geert Oude Weernink heard us play "Bear Dance" at Whitney in 2009 and made it entirely clear next day that the Anglophone melodeonistas  ;) had it 'simplified' and 'wrong'.

      I suspect someone half remembered it from a European festival and would consider putting money on that being Dave Roberts. Dave was a close friend of the van Doorn family of Joordan, who were in turn pretty central in NEVO (Holland's EFDSS  in those days). I vaguely remember doing the dance in the Amersfoort folk camp in 1979. Put that together with Blowsabella popularising the tune in their early years ...

Searching for "berendans"  I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNJB84Gb-4

I don't have a recording of Geert playing but do recall that the main difference was that the tune went "up again" in the second half of the A music rather than that really arguably dull B A G F# cadence that we all play in English sessions.  The above is pretty close to my memory of what he played

[edit] Gadzooks - here's an Asturian version! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PArORyJLELc  Spain did of course used to own the Low Counties.  Note it's a dance (definite Basque influences in this incarnation).
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #473 on: November 23, 2011, 11:14:20 AM »

Only if someone can provide the dots or ABC for the original Belgian(?) tune, not the simplified version that everybody plays here.

Searching for "berendans"  I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNJB84Gb-4


Many, many moons ago - late 60s or very early 70s - on an exchange visit with a Belgian dance group, I learned, from the Belgian musicians, a version of the tune in which the A music is subsantially the same as the B music in the YouTube video and the B music is distantly related to the various A musics floating round.  I've never got my head round the English session version, partly because "my" version is so firmly ingrained in my musical memory and partly because I've always played it the other way round (we've been here before with the Rochdale Nutters!), as I learned it from our Belgian hosts.  They also took it much slower than it's often played.  I definitely play it the way they did because I jotted down the dots at the time and got them to confirm that what I'd written down was what they played.  That doesn't make it "right", of course - just another version. Unfortunately I can't at this distance recall whether it was Bruges, Ghent or Antwerp - certainly one of the three.  I'll see if I can find time to do a quick recording - then at least I'll be ahead of the game if it ever does come up as TOTM!

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #474 on: November 23, 2011, 11:28:39 AM »


Searching for "berendans"  I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNJB84Gb-4


Another name for it: "Krebbel Reidans"
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #475 on: November 23, 2011, 01:30:13 PM »

I would enjoy the 12 bar blues as a Theme of the Month. Plus, after the holidays, the blues might be particularly appropriate. I'm working on Easy Blues (Yann Dour, Vol.2 : La mélodie, p. 34) and find it a struggle to keep my left hand from leaving the room. As Brian Peters wrote, the air button plays a role. Well, yes, indeed. The PMilleret - Pignol / Vidéos pédagogiques / blues would also seem to fit in.

. . . The trick is basically to play 'backwards' like Cajun players do, e.g. by playing in A on the D row.  If you're doing this on a D/G instrument you can achieve two classic bluesy sounds quite easily: the flattened 7th (G natural in the key of A) is right there under your fingers on the D row, and you can pull a nice bluesy mini-chord of E & G with your right hand; also you can get the 'blue third' effect by slurring from C natural on the G row to C sharp on the D row (still pulling).  With a bit of row-crossing you can find a nice blues scale (A - C/C# - E - F# - G) on the pull.  Using my RH lower octave stop beefs up the sound no end, and I always play without thirds on the LH in any case.  The only problem is that you end up on the pull a lot of the time, so you either have to use the air button to recover bellows postion at intervals, or find interesting bluesy things to do agains a pushed D chord (not easy unless you have a few extra accidentals).

The other thing you need is a bit of attitude.  Given that, even the 'wrong' notes can come out sounding like the blues.


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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #476 on: November 23, 2011, 11:43:39 PM »

How about "Tunes From Valkyrie's Tunebook" as a theme?

Hmmm. Not really inclusive enough to run as a theme I think. Unless we could have a list of the names of the tunes printed in the book of course...

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #477 on: November 27, 2011, 04:42:04 PM »

This is a compliment guys, even if my book's not suitable for a theme. I've attached the contents pages anyway to give a list of the tunes.

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #478 on: November 27, 2011, 05:58:08 PM »

This is a compliment guys, even if my book's not suitable for a theme. I've attached the contents pages anyway to give a list of the tunes.

Alex




OK, well, there are two titles there I recognise.........yes, I know that says more about me than about anything else.. :|bl
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #479 on: November 27, 2011, 11:08:50 PM »

This is a compliment guys, even if my book's not suitable for a theme. I've attached the contents pages anyway to give a list of the tunes.

Alex

Oooh. There's some crackers amongst that lot, and a fair range from the fairly simple (e.g. Canal in October) to the ridiculously difficult! I quite like the idea actually, because it gives the ability to promote some of the wonderful repertoire of these fantastic players without necessarily restricting ourselves too much (in general, I think the 'compositions of one person' themes are usually too limited in terms of number of tunes available to work well - this is quite a nice way round that).

I'd only consider it though if there wasn't a problem publishing the list of names of the tunes as part of the theme, and provided none of the eight authors, yourself included of course, had a problem with people learning, recording and posting the odd video of their compositions on youtube, etc.

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