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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #560 on: April 23, 2012, 02:13:36 PM »

Or in Sweden or in Quebec :P Well, if crooked tunes count as irregular time signatures anyway (:)
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #561 on: April 23, 2012, 06:32:24 PM »

What is an irregular time sig?  Surely 5/4 is regular?  It has the same number of beats in every bar?

Just asking, I'm not trying to stir things up.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #562 on: April 23, 2012, 09:13:29 PM »

Quite right Theo.  ;)  There are tunes where the time sig changes mid-tune. And there are tunes with the same time sig regularly beating away  all the way through.  So those odder  ones,  7/8,   11/8  etc are regular too.

I don't know the proper name for those wonky Balkan time sigs. I know that they have unequal beats, so Kopenitza has  5 beats in the bar, but the middle one is longer than the others (22322)   I suppose I think of 5/4  as wonky two-in-a-bar  3+2 or  2+3.
Maybe someone will write in and tell us the proper word instead of wonky. 

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #563 on: April 23, 2012, 09:38:25 PM »

the proper word instead of wonky.
plenty of options, including "irregular", on offer here.
Aksak is nicest imo.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #564 on: April 23, 2012, 09:57:56 PM »

Theme Idea:   Irregular time signatures e.g. 5/4, 7/8, 11/8, 12/8..... ??? etc etc.
Building on Ollie's posting of Bobbityshooty.
OK it's a bit esoteric maybe, but not in the Balkans. And great on the melodeon, as the basses can spell out the irregular divisions.

That's an interesting idea.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #565 on: April 23, 2012, 10:13:54 PM »

Might just be best to call them 'unusual' - as in: time signatures which most English folk tunes ain't in.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #566 on: April 24, 2012, 08:57:35 AM »

the proper word instead of wonky.
plenty of options, including "irregular", on offer here.
Aksak is nicest imo.

A guy I was in a band with called them asymmetric which sort of fits with 'aksak'.  But he also uses  asymmetric to describe 4/4 tunes like rants where the bar is divided unevenly - ana\one-two-three-ana|one-two-three etc.

And is 3/4 even or uneven?   Waltz has three unequal beats???  Its a minefield!
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #567 on: April 24, 2012, 09:09:25 AM »

Pignol has long used the asymmetric term for anything with an off number of beats that isn't 3 or 9. I suspect he might extend it to a 12/8 if it were structured say 3,3,2,2,2 but not sure on that. Maybe even an 8 time waltz 3,3,2?  Certainly it feels that way as a dance.

7/8 played as 2,2,3  5/4 and longer repeats are certainly 'asymmetric' in his terms. However the words used by theorists are additive and subtractive. Plenty on Wiki as ever

I don't see 'nudged note' rhythms in this - swing, and pushed ones like 'son' and 'clave' used in Latin music?

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #568 on: April 25, 2012, 04:46:23 PM »

We'll certainly visit 'asymmetrics' or whatever you want to call them as part of the 'build a repertoire' meta-theme of ThoTM... not yet though; a few places we need to go first!

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #569 on: April 25, 2012, 05:03:24 PM »

I'd never realised there was a 'meta-theme' - how exciting! For me, it's more like having acquired a body of tunes which I could just about play for long enough to get them on YouTube for ThOTM. Some have started to become old friends though I must admit and I'm going to try and hold on to my sole Italian toon!  8) (where's the little fella with the puzzling question marks gone when you need him?)
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #570 on: May 11, 2012, 03:56:45 AM »

Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #571 on: May 11, 2012, 09:57:51 AM »

Theme: inspiring tunes (tunes that inspire you to play along)

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #572 on: May 25, 2012, 11:04:16 PM »

Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain

Yep, we haven't done a Tunes from Spain yet have we? I'll probably make it cover the whole of Spain when it comes up, though to my shame, I'm not really aware of much Spanish music other than Basque and Galician. Can someone point me in the right directions please?

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #573 on: May 26, 2012, 09:41:02 AM »

Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain
. Can someone point me in the right directions please?

 :|bl

Go a bit South of France and slightly to your right.  ::)

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #574 on: May 26, 2012, 10:04:17 AM »

Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain
. Can someone point me in the right directions please?
Go a bit South of France and slightly to your right.  ::)

I make that Italy.  ;)
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #575 on: May 26, 2012, 10:07:56 AM »

Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain
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Go a bit South of France and slightly to your right.  ::)

I make that Italy.  ;)

Not if you are heading south as directed

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #576 on: May 26, 2012, 10:21:58 AM »

Not if you are heading south as directed

Ah - I'm old fashioned - I still remember maps!
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #577 on: May 29, 2012, 10:56:19 PM »

Suggestion for Theme of the Month: Celtic music from the north of Spain

Yep, we haven't done a Tunes from Spain yet have we? I'll probably make it cover the whole of Spain when it comes up, though to my shame, I'm not really aware of much Spanish music other than Basque and Galician. Can someone point me in the right directions please?

 :|bl

I plan to do a project this summer and dig up some resources. Anything contributed by anyone here would be welcome.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #578 on: May 29, 2012, 11:00:32 PM »

After watching much of the marathon broadcast of Ken Burns' documentary The War last weekend, I went online to find the notes to "Lili Marlene", which made me think that maybe a TOTM covering soldiers' songs or songs associated with war could yield good things...?
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #579 on: June 06, 2012, 07:10:01 AM »

Anyone fancy the
classic Souza March
"Transit of Venus"


[ed]  My thanks to Ed
 of this parish for this
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