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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #160 on: January 28, 2010, 01:09:42 PM »

There is also much confusion possible as to the speed of the slows (C music for non-morrisers), both my teams do the first set of slows (kick capers) quickly and the second set (uprights) slowly which is great as thats what we do. At the Ale tomorrow it will all fall apart as there will be ~10 sides theer at least half of which will do it differently.


I know that's written in english but I don't understand a word. lol

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #161 on: January 28, 2010, 01:49:46 PM »

As I wrote recently in another thread, Orange in Bloom is in 6/8 time, which makes it a jig. However, it is played slowly and with syncopation to suit the Morris dance. It is easily transposed into 3/4 time and when played socially as a waltz is known as the Sherborne Waltz.

Perhaps I should have said that in most cases it is played slowly for Morris, but Clive's link to the Chanctonbury Ring interpretation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJrpYwP0-Q
There is also much confusion possible as to the speed of the slows (C music for non-morrisers), both my teams do the first set of slows (kick capers) quickly and the second set (uprights) slowly which is great as thats what we do. At the Ale tomorrow it will all fall apart as there will be ~10 sides theer at least half of which will do it differently.

We do the whole dance slower than the Chanctonbury Ring but as with you, one slow is faster than the other. And obviously we do the proper hand movements, i.e. Down, up, high circles, down. Or whatever that is in Black Book shorthand.

And I'm never really sure of which is which out of the uprights and the kick capers. The one which we do faster is the Right, left heel, right spring, left etc. The one which we do slower is the right cross, left cross, jump-and-try-to-do-the-splits.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #162 on: January 28, 2010, 02:07:15 PM »

What if I don't want to play it for morris but don't want to play it as a waltz either...is that sacrilege?
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It would nice to have (a) a happy tune (b) not a waltz

Play it any way you choose, dear Lady. The beauty of TOTM is that it isn't prescriptive in any way other than the elected tune. O&B in the style of Teddy Bear's Picnic would be most welcome. One could even add a third name. (Paddington somehow seems appropriate)?  :|glug

I'm thinking dark thoughts about Orange 'n Blues  >:E

except getting your teeth round the name ;)

Teeth!  :o
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #163 on: January 28, 2010, 02:07:30 PM »

As I wrote recently in another thread, Orange in Bloom is in 6/8 time, which makes it a jig. However, it is played slowly and with syncopation to suit the Morris dance. It is easily transposed into 3/4 time and when played socially as a waltz is known as the Sherborne Waltz.

Perhaps I should have said that in most cases it is played slowly for Morris, but Clive's link to the Chanctonbury Ring interpretation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJrpYwP0-Q
There is also much confusion possible as to the speed of the slows (C music for non-morrisers), both my teams do the first set of slows (kick capers) quickly and the second set (uprights) slowly which is great as thats what we do. At the Ale tomorrow it will all fall apart as there will be ~10 sides theer at least half of which will do it differently.

We do the whole dance slower than the Chanctonbury Ring but as with you, one slow is faster than the other. And obviously we do the proper hand movements, i.e. Down, up, high circles, down. Or whatever that is in Black Book shorthand.

And I'm never really sure of which is which out of the uprights and the kick capers. The one which we do faster is the Right, left heel, right spring, left etc. The one which we do slower is the right cross, left cross, jump-and-try-to-do-the-splits.

I think that is the speed John is aiming for, but for me, its a bit too fast. Ah yes, the hand movements... technically, there is no correct way. When the tradition was collected, the collector was told "higher and higher" but he didn't bother to ask the old bloke what he meant! The high circles are CMMs interpretation of that. Personally, I think it looks better that way, and really differentiates it from other traditions, but most teams just do down, up, down up, rather than down, up, high circle, high circle. At the Jigs weekend, I was taught something completely different which just looked rather silly!

Kicks come first, then uprights.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #164 on: January 28, 2010, 02:13:04 PM »

I think that is the speed John is aiming for, but for me, its a bit too fast. Ah yes, the hand movements... technically, there is no correct way. When the tradition was collected, the collector was told "higher and higher" but he didn't bother to ask the old bloke what he meant! The high circles are CMMs interpretation of that. Personally, I think it looks better that way, and really differentiates it from other traditions, but most teams just do down, up, down up, rather than down, up, high circle, high circle. At the Jigs weekend, I was taught something completely different which just looked rather silly!

Kicks come first, then uprights.

I was watching that and thinking that it would be a bit too fast for me as well. John may well be aiming for that speed, he insisted that we do Cuckoo's Nest that sort of speed when I was playing it. Then again, when Liz was playing it on Tuesday it was if anything a bit slow.

And yes, my use of proper was very much tongue in cheek ;D I do think that the ones that we do are more interesting, fit the dance better and are more satisfying to watch and to do than the standard one.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #165 on: January 28, 2010, 02:26:10 PM »

<snip>I do think that the ones that we do are more interesting, fit the dance better and are more satisfying to watch and to do than the standard one.

But you would wouldn't you!   ::)

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #166 on: January 29, 2010, 01:08:12 AM »

<snip>I do think that the ones that we do are more interesting, fit the dance better and are more satisfying to watch and to do than the standard one.

But you would wouldn't you!   ::)

Well yes of course, albeit only partly because I'm right ;D
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #167 on: February 01, 2010, 11:41:22 AM »

Since it came a respectable second in February's poll, I hope that The Plane Tree will be carried forward into March's poll.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #168 on: February 02, 2010, 09:00:39 AM »

Spring is in the air (almost) and I'd like to nominate V'la l'printemps by Bruno le Tron. Brave perhaps, but actually not too difficult. And it'd break new ground for a lot of us - rather differently from  Speed the Plough

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NllYQWAtOBE
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #169 on: February 02, 2010, 09:15:10 AM »

Spring is in the air (almost) and I'd like to nominate V'la l'printemps by Bruno le Tron. Brave perhaps, but actually not too difficult. And it'd break new ground for a lot of us - rather differently from  Speed the Plough

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NllYQWAtOBE

There's some lovely tunes there aren't there? I think I'll have a go at that Bruno le Tron one - never heard it before. Can't help with the mazurka, but if it's Stephane Delicq, I don't think he has recorded it.

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #170 on: February 02, 2010, 10:29:25 AM »

Spring is in the air (almost) and I'd like to nominate V'la l'printemps by Bruno le Tron. Brave perhaps, but actually not too difficult. And it'd break new ground for a lot of us - rather differently from  Speed the Plough

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NllYQWAtOBE

Do you have the notes or ABC as it would be a non-starter for me without them, and I may not be on my own.

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #171 on: February 02, 2010, 01:51:30 PM »

I would like to suggest Skirmish by Nick Barber, which White Rose and Dog Rose usee to dance the Oddington dance of that name. As seen on Jools Holland. Really satisfying tune to play ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3q0FmHb4FQ
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #172 on: February 02, 2010, 03:13:45 PM »

I would like to suggest Skirmish by Nick Barber, which White Rose and Dog Rose usee to dance the Oddington dance of that name. As seen on Jools Holland. Really satisfying tune to play ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3q0FmHb4FQ

Nice tune! But is it the tune itself called Skirmish or Nick's Maggot?

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #173 on: February 02, 2010, 03:27:27 PM »

I would like to suggest Skirmish by Nick Barber, which White Rose and Dog Rose usee to dance the Oddington dance of that name. As seen on Jools Holland. Really satisfying tune to play ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3q0FmHb4FQ

Nice tune! But is it the tune itself called Skirmish or Nick's Maggot?

Cheers,

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Skirmish is a fairly generic title for "made up" morris dances with much the same stick hitting us figures from your tradition de jour. As to the tunes name I can be of no help.

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #174 on: February 02, 2010, 03:29:13 PM »


Skirmish is a fairly generic title for "made up" morris dances with much the same stick hitting us figures from your tradition de jour. As to the tunes name I can be of no help.

Ah, answered my own question. From Nick's website, where he's thoughtfully put music up of his compositions (there's a lot!), as ukebert says, it's Skirmish. Nick's Maggot is a completely different tune.

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #175 on: February 02, 2010, 06:30:16 PM »

I would like to suggest Skirmish by Nick Barber, which White Rose and Dog Rose use to dance the Oddington dance of that name. As seen on Jools Holland. Really satisfying tune to play ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3q0FmHb4FQ

Seconded a billion times over! I LOVE this tune, but mainly play it on the fiddle, so this would give me the prerogative to work out a decent arrangement on the box. It's a fantastic tune to dance to, so much better than British Grenadiers or Lily Bolero, two other tunes that I've danced said dance to.
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #176 on: February 03, 2010, 01:15:57 AM »

I would like to suggest Skirmish by Nick Barber, which White Rose and Dog Rose usee to dance the Oddington dance of that name. As seen on Jools Holland. Really satisfying tune to play ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3q0FmHb4FQ

Nice tune! But is it the tune itself called Skirmish or Nick's Maggot?

Cheers,

Clive

Well I thought it was called Nick's Maggot, but if you go to Nick's website it's under Skirmish. So I suppose he gets the final say. If it wins this might be one to email about, although I am sure that Nick wouldn't mind us using it in the slightest. I've done workshops with him before and he seemed perfectly happy for people to use his tunes if they acknowledged him. On his website he also says "Please feel free to play these tunes, perform them, use them how you want. Send me your comments, or recordings, and I will add them to the website."

http://homepages.see.leeds.ac.uk/~ear6nb/md/22details.htm

It is also one of the tunes that he has marked as "might be good" :P
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #177 on: February 07, 2010, 02:56:32 PM »

Can I suggest Gardener's Delight for TOTM
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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #178 on: February 19, 2010, 06:00:24 PM »

Can I also nominate 'you are my sunshine'

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Re: Suggestions for Future Tunes Thread
« Reply #179 on: February 19, 2010, 08:49:07 PM »

Can I also nominate 'you are my sunshine'
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