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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2010, 05:13:52 PM »

I don't recall seeing any score posted for this TOTM with chords. In case anyone is looking for some bass chord suggestions, here's the arrangement used by one of the groups I play with. It also has a couple of harmony parts, usually shared by the fiddlers. I just play the top part and chords, twice through. The harmony parts sound good on the second time through; I'm happy to leave the run up near the end of the third part to my daughter on fiddle.

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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2010, 05:24:11 PM »

I fell on the Skavsta airport parking place, just returned from a week in Ireland, and broke the scaphoid bone of my right hand. I haven't lost hope of being able to play the squeezebox but until next week when I get a new plaster I'll stay with tin whistle and singing.

  Hope you recover quickly! Best Wishes!  :||: :-* :'( :-* :|||:
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2010, 06:05:25 PM »

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This is very nice, and feels a bit more like a lament. Though it is truly hard to play laments on a quint box.

Sorry for my ignorance, but this comment intrigues me.  Is a lament an actual musical style, or just a broad description of a tune's sentiment?  It's a term I've seen used, but not really thought about previously.  So, for instance, does a lament supposed to have an extra 'something' to make it different from, say, a slow air?  Is it usually associated with a particular type of instrument?
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2010, 06:18:17 PM »

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This is very nice, and feels a bit more like a lament. Though it is truly hard to play laments on a quint box.

Sorry for my ignorance, but this comment intrigues me.  Is a lament an actual musical style, or just a broad description of a tune's sentiment?  It's a term I've seen used, but not really thought about previously.  So, for instance, does a lament supposed to have an extra 'something' to make it different from, say, a slow air?  Is it usually associated with a particular type of instrument?

A lament or lamentation is a song, poem, or piece of music expressing grief, regret, or mourning. From Lament - Wikipedia.
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2010, 07:33:41 PM »

Here's my first take of Ashokan Farewell.  I'm so glad this tune was chosen as it's such a beautiful one.
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2010, 07:45:22 PM »

Here's my first take of Ashokan Farewell.  I'm so glad this tune was chosen as it's such a beautiful one.


Is it invisible?   ::)

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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2010, 07:53:44 PM »

Sorry for my ignorance, but this comment intrigues me.  Is a lament an actual musical style, or just a broad description of a tune's sentiment?  It's a term I've seen used, but not really thought about previously.  So, for instance, does a lament supposed to have an extra 'something' to make it different from, say, a slow air?  Is it usually associated with a particular type of instrument?

A lament or lamentation is a song, poem, or piece of music expressing grief, regret, or mourning. From Lament - Wikipedia.
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There is a specific tune type in Scottish music, usually played on the pipes, called a lament, often written to commemorate a death.
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2010, 08:12:02 PM »

Sorry for my ignorance, but this comment intrigues me.  Is a lament an actual musical style, or just a broad description of a tune's sentiment?  It's a term I've seen used, but not really thought about previously.  So, for instance, does a lament supposed to have an extra 'something' to make it different from, say, a slow air?  Is it usually associated with a particular type of instrument?

A lament or lamentation is a song, poem, or piece of music expressing grief, regret, or mourning. From Lament - Wikipedia.

There is a specific tune type in Scottish music, usually played on the pipes, called a lament, often written to commemorate a death.
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Thanks....but what are the specific musical attributes that make it feel and sound like a lament rather than something else?  Or isn't it defined like that.
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2010, 09:18:56 PM »

Once again, here is my first take of Ashokan Farewell.  I believe this time I will add the link:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WySZFLqM4Ys
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2010, 09:56:12 PM »

Nice to see some more Ashokan Farewell versions being uploaded now - here's mine. It's not a tune I know terribly well; I can busk it at sessions, and that's about it, so please forgive any rough edges.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjajKWYEu1Q

Played in the Vivant style, in G on a D/G Castagnari Mory with lots of G drones (unisonoric basses again). Oh, and the time signature's changed, I've just noticed. It's now in 4/4, rather than the 3/4 it's normally played in. Not quite sure how that happened!  ::)

Cheers,

Clive

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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2010, 08:47:42 AM »

I don't recall seeing any score posted for this TOTM with chords.
Thanks, I don't find it easy to work out chords for myself.
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2010, 10:17:44 AM »

I do have a cunning plan on how to solve the missing notes problem (no I'm not telling) but just finding it really hard to get the tune in my head...or else whatever I play sounds a bit like morse code rather than a tune. :(

edit: plan B
« Last Edit: January 08, 2010, 03:44:51 PM by ladydetemps »
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2010, 10:32:38 AM »

Clive, your knack of adding 1 extra beat per bar to tunes is very clever! 

Can we look forward to, say, Irish Washerwoman in 7/8?
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2010, 10:33:46 AM »

Clive, your knack of adding 1 extra beat per bar to tunes is very clever! 

Can we look forward to, say, Irish Washerwoman in 7/8?

This time it wasn't deliberate! I only noticed after I'd uploaded it! I think I might need help... :'(

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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2010, 10:42:21 AM »

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I think I might need help...

Or encouragement, maybe?  I'm afraid my brain cells won't let my fingers work like that!

If you want another challenge, how about Sir Roger de Coverley in 10/8?
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2010, 11:04:08 AM »

If you want another challenge, how about Sir Roger de Coverley in 10/8?

My GIGCB co-conspirator, Alan Day, came up with an arrangement of Andy Cutting's Spaghetti Panic, normally in 7/8 (mostly), and turned it into 6/8 - i.e. as a straight jig. It's fantastic - one of the best jigs I've ever heard.

I love seeing tunes rewritten in unexpected ways like this...

Cheers,

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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2010, 12:52:52 PM »

<snip/>
This is very nice, and feels a bit more like a lament. Though it is truly hard to play laments on a quint box.

Sorry for my ignorance, but this comment intrigues me.  Is a lament an actual musical style, or just a broad description of a tune's sentiment?  It's a term I've seen used, but not really thought about previously.  So, for instance, does a lament supposed to have an extra 'something' to make it different from, say, a slow air?  Is it usually associated with a particular type of instrument?
I believe this tune was written to be a lament.  Mr Unger organized a music camp in New York quite a few years ago (it is still going on each summer and is very popular).  This tune was written in the early years of that camp.  The inspiration was his feeling of sadness at the end of a week of wonderful sharing of music and dance.
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2010, 01:28:54 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjajKWYEu1Q
Very nice, Clive. I think I prefer it 4/4 now I've heard it your way.
And as always plenty else to look out for in your vid, including the eyebrows thing at 2:47 and the array of infuriatingly unidentifiable objects lying around in the background.

JB, I love your observations. I was very impressed with the presidents chair too. 8)

Clive, thank you, this has inspired me because I am having trouble playing this tune in an oom pa style without it sounding a bit yee ha !!
I know it's a beautiful tune either way but I prefer your style and it has given me something to think about, thank you.

Cheers

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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2010, 03:07:40 PM »

Well I'm just back from hospital after an overnight stay with left wrist wired together. Anyone need a melodeon loan for a few weeks.

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12058

after 10 minutes practice, I'll see if I can learn to bend the C natural by the end of the month.

Graham
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2010, 05:44:47 PM »

I love seeing tunes rewritten in unexpected ways like this...

or in this case unexpectedly rewritten?
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