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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2010, 06:49:36 PM »

Nice to see some more Ashokan Farewell versions being uploaded now - here's mine. It's not a tune I know terribly well; I can busk it at sessions, and that's about it, so please forgive any rough edges.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjajKWYEu1Q

Played in the Vivant style, in G on a D/G Castagnari Mory with lots of G drones (unisonoric basses again). Oh, and the time signature's changed, I've just noticed. It's now in 4/4, rather than the 3/4 it's normally played in. Not quite sure how that happened!  ::)

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Clive


I'm not so sure what I think about the time change for this particular tune - but really love the sound you're achieving, particularly in the 'B' part.  There's definately a few 'ooooh' moments in there!

The unisonic bases also seem to work nicely for this one.  As such, it'll be interesting to hear what any B/C/C# (or PA  >:E) players do with this, too. 
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2010, 11:08:24 PM »

I know it's a beautiful tune either way but I prefer your style and it has given me something to think about, thank you.

You're welcome! One thought for the day for 12 bass box owners - if you happen to have a F bass chord/treble note in the same direction (on a D/G box that is, Eb on a C/F, Bb on a G/C etc), try playing it in G rather than D. For me, it sits a lot more naturally than trying to play it in D - you're not fighting against working at the extremes of the keyboard.

Good luck all!

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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2010, 11:43:38 AM »

I posted this elsewhere but it seems timely to put it in this thread, AF in G.

X:1
T:Ashokan Farewell
C:Jay Ungar
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:G
(d<f) | g3 f e/2d | B4 A<B | c3 B A<G | E2 G3 E |
D2 G2 B2 | d2 g2 b2 | b3 c' b2 | a4 d<f |
g3 f e<d | B4 A<B | c3 B A<G | E2 G3 E |
D2 G2 B2 | d2 g2 b2 | d2 f2 a2 | g4 B<c |
d3 B G2 | g4 d2 | e3 f g2 | d2 B2 B<A |
B3 A G2 | E4 G2 | D6 | d4 BG |
G2 B2 d2 | =f4 f2 | e3 f g2 | d2 B3 G |
D2 G2 B2 | d2 g2 B2 A3 D F2 | G6 ||
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2010, 10:07:40 PM »

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I posted this elsewhere but it seems timely to put it in this thread, AF in G.

yes, I've been pacticing this in G, as a first attempt seems easier to get all the notes, basses still unsure on a 2 row D/G, any thoughts.

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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2010, 10:16:02 PM »

When you get to the F natural, keep playing a G chord in the bass as this creates a G7 chord which has a similar tention to an F chord.
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2010, 11:09:20 PM »

There is a specific tune type in Scottish music, usually played on the pipes, called a lament, often written to commemorate a death.
Thanks....
Here is a lament (inspired by GbH's performance) played on a Border Pipe set in A
http://members.chello.hu/nemethmik/AshokanFarewell-Miki-BorderPipes-20100109OK2.mp3
Maybe a bit fast for a lament.
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2010, 11:22:39 PM »

Wow, fantastic performance Miki, those pipes sound wonderful; such a sweet and mellow sound.
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2010, 12:07:35 AM »

Very fine setting of this tune.... it lost nothing in the translation to pipes. Thanks.... ;D
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2010, 09:23:18 AM »

Just lovely on the pipes - I was delighted when my Media Player autorepeated it :D.  It made me wonder if AF is intrinsically a solo voice melody?   I'd personally call this version 'Lament' speed - but each to his own.  There's perhaps a melodeonic lesson wrt how little a tune gets perturbed - when squashed into a single octave. So those without low note buttons can just brass it out!  ;)

When you get to the F natural, keep playing a G chord in the bass as this creates a G7 chord which has a similar tention to an F chord.

100% of the tension in dominant 7 chords comes from the 3-tone interval between 3rd and 7th elements. In this case B and F.  So if your right hand F is a push - you could 'create' G7 chord by sounding B push base. Of course voicing matters - they don't 'ring' if more than a octave apart. Experiment with any chord containing 'B', or even pop in a right hand B ... though carrying that G through is very much in the tune's spirit.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2010, 09:41:03 AM by Chris Ryall »
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2010, 11:05:34 AM »

A family project for Sunday morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adD-IqJxSpE
 ;)
Miki
« Last Edit: January 10, 2010, 12:18:05 PM by Miklos Nemeth »
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2010, 11:15:57 AM »

Ha ha, magic bellows control!
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2010, 09:43:35 PM »

Actually, that is my favourite so far - exactly how I think this tune should be played and what I'm trying to achieve with my own version. Well done jb!  (:)
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2010, 10:18:49 PM »

Nice one, jb! your (anti-) sentiments (which I tend to agree on) don't come over in your playing. I like the way you've managed to 'infill' in the long, drawn out notes , and you've given it a sort of Scottish feel. I can't see it properly, but am presuming you are able to cross over to the 'pull' on the inside row in order to not run out of air on those runs up of 2 x 3 long notes? Although I've more or less worked out where I want to go for basses on the 2-row, I can't seem to get a bellows reversal here with any sort of satisfactory chords, so I've always got a bit of a 'stop' and a gasp for air in the midst of what should be a lyrical phrase.

I too may have to revert to a 3-row to do this one...(but it's a row of accidentals...so will still play AF like on a 2-row) simply because it's the only box I've got where I can remove the 3rds from the chords. Without being able to tap the chords at least through most of the tune, it's even more difficult to give it any rhythmic quality.

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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2010, 10:32:57 AM »

Now don't get me wrong AF is a beautiful tune ... but its always  going to be dull when not played in context with the mood it generates , secondly its usually in D where basic Hohners run out of low notes (with accidentals)... soooooooo!  I don't want to spend much learning time on it, i might never play it again ! and i want to give it my usual car crash treatment and do it a bit different... so here we go ... 1 take ... cock ups and all!  ASHOKAN FAREWELL in G on a Hohner Morgane DG >:E
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhSv6eR8_8M
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2010, 10:46:08 AM »

Brave move Derek, well played, and with your usual panache.

Anyone still hold that the speed of a tune isn't important?
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2010, 11:00:58 AM »

Yes as Derek say bit of a dirge as a lament. Nice waltz though. Here's my offering. Right or wrong. :|bl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjqOrJUUheA

Cheers :|glug
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2010, 04:18:47 PM »

ASHOKAN FAREWELL in G on a Hohner Morgane DG
I can't view this just now, but a quick question ... does your Morgane have accidentals?   The one I looked at (nice box) had low notes.
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2010, 05:00:58 PM »

ASHOKAN FAREWELL in G on a Hohner Morgane DG
I can't view this just now, but a quick question ... does your Morgane have accidentals?   The one I looked at (nice box) had low notes.


2 Accidentals at the bottom ... no extra low notes!
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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2010, 09:47:41 PM »

Actually FA when played as a waltz reminds me of "Michael Turner's Waltz".

Couldn't find a melodeon so this will have to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mazu6AUs8XI


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Re: Tune of the Month for January 2010 - Ashokan Farewell
« Reply #59 on: January 12, 2010, 08:57:41 AM »

Told you I'm rubbish...here's me murdering the tune
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=12225
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