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Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« on: February 28, 2010, 11:05:40 PM »

Ladies and Gentlemen,

The theme of the month rides again! This month, in honour of St David's Day, we're doing 'Tunes from Wales'! That's quite a broad category I think, so I'm sure there are lots of tunes we can play! If you're doing a TOTM video anyway and happen to have a welsh tune or two in your head (or even a tune with the most tenuous of links to Wales), why not record and post them while you've got the webcam out?

Looking forward to hearing your tunes!

Clive

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2010, 10:55:14 AM »

Dydd Dewi Sant - St David's Day

Right - here's the first set of tunes from Wales then....

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=15191

Three tunes for the dance played on multi-tracked melodeons:
Castagnari Lilium in D/G and G/C, Castagnari Max in D, plus whistle and anglo concertina.

The tunes are:
1. Pibddawns Jones (Jones' Hornpipe) by Edward Jones, Bardd y Brennin (King's Bard). Key of G
2. Pwt ar y Bys (trad). Key of D
3. Pant Corlan yr Wyn (The Lambs'-Fold Vale) (trad). Key of G

These three are among my all-time favourite tunes. I don't normally like playing medleys, having John K's aversion to them, but I'm more than happy to make an exception here as the tunes go together beautifully and they ripple along delightfully.  (:)  (:)  (:)  (:)  (:)

The tunes may be found in Blodau'r Grug, 100 Popular Welsh Folk Dance Tunes, published by the Welsh Folk Dance Society.

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2010, 04:46:03 PM »

Dydd Dewi Sant - St David's Day

Right - here's the first set of tunes from Wales then....

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=15191

Wow, what a wonderful set! Thanks for brightening my day, Steve!.... ;D
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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 08:13:57 PM »

Dydd Dewi Sant - St David's Day

Right - here's the first set of tunes from Wales then....

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=15191

Wow, what a wonderful set! Thanks for brightening my day, Steve!.... ;D
Never mind the blimmin' circumflex. At least someone has listened to the tunes - Hooray!
Thanks J.W!  ;D
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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 08:21:08 PM »

Dydd Dewi Sant - St David's Day

Right - here's the first set of tunes from Wales then....

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=15191

Wow, what a wonderful set! Thanks for brightening my day, Steve!.... ;D
Never mind the blimmin' circumflex. At least someone has listened to the tunes - Hooray!
Thanks J.W!  ;D

Lovely stuff, Steve.  What does "Pwt ar y Bys" mean?  According to my Welsh dictionary it seems to translate as "Stump on the Finger", which doesn't sound likely.  It's obviously a version of "Buttered Peas", but is the English name a mishearing of the Welsh, or vice versa?

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 08:39:22 PM »

Lovely stuff, Steve.  What does "Pwt ar y Bys" mean?  According to my Welsh dictionary it seems to translate as "Stump on the Finger", which doesn't sound likely.  It's obviously a version of "Buttered Peas", but is the English name a mishearing of the Welsh, or vice versa?
Thanks, Howard!
Pwt can mean a poke or prod, and the preposition ar can mean 'of' or 'at', as well as 'on', depending on context. So I guess you could translate Pwt ar y Bys as a 'Poke of the Finger'. My Welsh is pretty limited, so we need a proper Welsh speaker here. Rees...?
As to which name came first - Buttered Peas or Pwt ar y Bys, I have no idea!
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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2010, 07:57:58 AM »

Never mind the blimmin' circumflex. At least someone has listened to the tunes - Hooray!

Oh, so have I now - I was at work the first time and couldn't listen to them there.
Very nice too, and sorry about the technical lecture!
We've got books full of Welsh tunes here, but a shortage of round tuits....
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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2010, 09:31:35 AM »

Dydd Dewi Sant - St David's Day

Right - here's the first set of tunes from Wales then....

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=15191


What a lovely start to the theme of the month.  (:)

cheers

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2010, 09:48:38 AM »

Dydd Dewi Sant - St David's Day

These three are among my all-time favourite tunes. I don't normally like playing medleys, having John K's aversion to them, but I'm more than happy to make an exception here as the tunes go together beautifully and they ripple along delightfully.  (:)  (:)  (:)  (:)  (:)


Lovely set, Steve. Thanks for getting the ThOTM off so well.
As you say ... "they ripple along delightfully". I am envisioning sitting on a large rock by a river cascading down from the local Welsh mountain, the sun beating down as these tunes accompany the water down the valley ....

Happy days ... back to Wales I must go ....

Thanks
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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2010, 10:56:36 AM »

[[[ The editorial fountain pen moves lots of circumflex discussion out of this thread... and says 'Great set of tunes, Steve!' ]]]

I don't know many welsh tunes myself; looking forward to seeing what great ones like these everyone digs up!

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2010, 11:50:48 AM »

As to which name came first - Buttered Peas or Pwt ar y Bys, I have no idea!
I think the Welsh came first.
There's a Scottish strathspey version of the same tune, and it's called....
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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2010, 11:58:45 AM »

Dydd Dewi Sant - St David's Day

Right - here's the first set of tunes from Wales then....

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=15191

Three tunes for the dance played on multi-tracked melodeons:
Castagnari Lilium in D/G and G/C, Castagnari Max in D, plus whistle and anglo concertina.


Steve - that was brill....

Can I just ask though, how complicated is it to mix it all together, as you've done?

Is it the province of the confirmed 'technogeek' (ie, special hardware/software etc), or is it something that we could all aspire to on basic home computers?

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2010, 05:03:51 PM »

Never mind the blimmin' circumflex. At least someone has listened to the tunes - Hooray!

Oh, so have I now - I was at work the first time and couldn't listen to them there.
Very nice too, and sorry about the technical lecture!
We've got books full of Welsh tunes here, but a shortage of round tuits....


Oh oh oh!! Last time I was at Wilbraham (when we were in the back room, December I think) you and Mary played two brilliant Welsh jigs... could you put those up, I'd love to learn them.  (:)

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2010, 12:53:35 AM »

Ok, just uploaded to youtube, so should be live in a few minutes is this:

Bethan Rhiannon

... which is precisely one half of all the welsh tunes I know... and I've only just learned it especially!

I learned it in the traditional way, off a Huw and Tony Williams CD, although it's also on the first Crasdant CD too. I believe it's traditional (don't have the CDs to hand at the moment, so working off memory - does anyone know better?), although I've included Huw's guitar break from the CD at the start and middle of the tune which I expect he probably wrote.

Played on a Castagnari Mory in D/G, unisonoric basses.

Enjoy - perhaps later in the month if I get time, and no-one beats me to it (which someone surely will), I'll post the *other* welsh tune I know.

Cheers,

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2010, 07:22:53 AM »

Ok, just uploaded to youtube, so should be live in a few minutes is this:

Bethan Rhiannon

Played on a Castagnari Mory in D/G, unisonoric basses.
Absolutely beautiful, Clive. Thank you!
That Mory sounds very nice indeed.
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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2010, 08:33:44 AM »

Welsh jigs... could you put those up, I'd love to learn them.  (:)
Can be arranged...
Given Steve's precedent a few postings back I assume a mixed performance with other instruments is allowed as long as there's a melodeon in it somewhere?

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2010, 09:50:02 AM »

I was thinking of posting a reply to the effect that Anahata's question was academic since notoriously we don't seem to be able to agree on what a melodeon is...

In my question, the other instrument would be an English concertina. I know there's arguments over where to draw the line, but I've yet to see one that claimed the EC was a melodeon  ;)

The search engine is quite right not to let you search for 'melodeon'. What would you expect...
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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2010, 08:12:08 PM »

Given Steve's precedent a few postings back I assume a mixed performance with other instruments is allowed as long as there's a melodeon in it somewhere?

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2010, 09:08:59 PM »

My melodeon is currently "hors de combat", am I allowed to use my bandoneon?

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Re: Theme for the Month for March 2010 - Tunes from Wales
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2010, 11:19:14 AM »

you and Mary played two brilliant Welsh jigs... could you put those up, I'd love to learn them.  (:)

Here you go: Tafarn Y Wheatsheaf and Rasus Doncaster
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