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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2010, 12:16:02 AM »

Like a couple of others here, I didn't think this TOTM was my cup of tea, then I started playing around with it on the one-row, and came up with this. I see that William Laurie subtitled it a 'Retreat March' so I envisioned this as a dignified slow march.

Battle of the Somme

Played on a Wesson Clipper one-row four-stop in C.


Very nice Steve, and that Wesson Clipper sounds gooood
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2010, 10:16:27 AM »

Here's my first try (mp3) at this tune. Still needs a bit of polishing.  ;)

That's lovely Simon
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2010, 11:31:08 AM »

Here's my first try (mp3) at this tune. Still needs a bit of polishing.  ;)

That's lovely Simon
Hear, hear! That is really nice.
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2010, 11:32:12 AM »

Very nice Steve, and that Wesson Clipper sounds gooood
Thanks Lizzy! I'm very pleased with the Clipper  (:)
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2010, 03:12:40 PM »

I've not even tried this yet, but before I do so can I ask about time signatures?   Is everyone doing 9/8?   I only ask because there are versions on JC's tunefinder in 9/8, 6/8 and 3/4.  I don't read music well enough to glance at the scores and understand how these will differ.
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2010, 03:42:24 PM »

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Like a couple of others here, I didn't think this TOTM was my cup of tea, then I started playing around with it on the one-row, and came up with this. I see that William Laurie subtitled it a 'Retreat March' so I envisioned this as a dignified slow march.

Battle of the Somme

Played on a Wesson Clipper one-row four-stop in C.

Great stuff Steve - very sensitively played as well (not something I personally associate with a one-row four-stop  ;)). I look forward to being able this weekend to having a few moments to muck around with my own version of this tune  >:E

Kind Regards

AL
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #66 on: April 11, 2010, 01:22:27 PM »

[[[ quick edit to take some technical discussions into a separate thread ]]]

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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #67 on: April 11, 2010, 10:25:59 PM »

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=18385

Here is my effort, C drone through out, played in C on G/D Beltuna Alex 3.

Graham
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #68 on: April 11, 2010, 11:58:39 PM »

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=18385

Here is my effort, C drone through out, played in C on G/D Beltuna Alex 3.

Graham
And very good it is too. At last we're getting near a decent tempo for this tune.

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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #69 on: April 12, 2010, 12:10:56 AM »

I've not even tried this yet, but before I do so can I ask about time signatures?   Is everyone doing 9/8?   I only ask because there are versions on JC's tunefinder in 9/8, 6/8 and 3/4.  I don't read music well enough to glance at the scores and understand how these will differ.
You should play it as 9/8, because that's what the composer wrote. There are some not-so-good ABC transcriptions out there. Fortunately, bagpipe tunes are available as written scores, or electronically as Bagpipe Music Writer (.bmw or .bww) files. This is one area of music where ABC transcriptions are probably better avoided.

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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #70 on: April 12, 2010, 07:22:21 AM »

You should play it as 9/8, because that's what the composer wrote.
Only if you want to play it the way the composer intended  ;)
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #71 on: April 12, 2010, 07:58:51 AM »

This is one area of music where ABC transcriptions are probably better avoided.
I think that's a problem (as ever) with the human element of the transcription process, not the ABC.
ABC was invented by Chris Walshaw, who is a piper, and for that reason it has some provisions for pipe notation conventions, should one choose to use them, but I don't think it would help here.

You should play it as 9/8, because that's what the composer wrote.
Only if you want to play it the way the composer intended  ;)
Use the music as written by the composer. Play it how you like  (:)
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #72 on: April 12, 2010, 08:15:25 AM »

http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=18385

Here is my effort, C drone through out, played in C on G/D Beltuna Alex 3.

Graham
And very good it is too. At last we're getting near a decent tempo for this tune.

Yes - I can really see those poor boys heading back for their tea with a bit of cockiness in their step. Great version - thanks!
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #73 on: April 12, 2010, 08:32:05 AM »

I think it was Dave Swarbrick (in conversation with Paul Scourfield) who said that he found it difficult to find the right speed of a retreat march. "Too fast and it's a bit undignified, too slow and the enemy might catch you up!"
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #74 on: April 12, 2010, 09:07:29 AM »

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http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=18385

Here is my effort, C drone through out, played in C on G/D Beltuna Alex 3.

Graham

Graham, I like this, too - the idea of playing it in C to get the drone is a great one, and it sounds very much like the effect of a set of pipes.
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #75 on: April 12, 2010, 10:04:59 AM »

This is one area of music where ABC transcriptions are probably better avoided.
I think that's a problem (as ever) with the human element of the transcription process, not the ABC.

You're right, of course. My comment re ABC in this case was unduly influenced by the version that Lester found, which might have been transcribed from a performance by Les Dawson. (:) (For non-Brits and the too-young, Les Dawson was an English comedian who . . . ach, too long an explanation).

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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #76 on: April 12, 2010, 10:15:43 AM »

Here is my contribution!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmjFWnS16LM

In general, I think this tune is really fun, and its 9/8 feel makes for a good vague rhythm.
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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2010, 08:58:21 AM »

Hmmm..had a go on the one row
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=18509
think some of the marching soldiers may have got lost in the mud in the middle bit. lol! ;)

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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #78 on: April 14, 2010, 09:23:21 AM »

Here is my contribution!

We appear to have achieved Mazurka dansability :D Vary nice
lol! Wasn't even trying for that.

Found out.....
I had an ancestor in the 'Battle of the Somme' from what I gather he worked with the horses bringing the ammunition to the frontline. And -this is the bit I've got various descriptions of - I think he got a medal because the horse and cart carrying the ammunition slipped off the boards and overturned while under fire he reloaded the cart and continued on....or something like that.

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Re: Tune of the Month for April 2010 - Battle of the Somme
« Reply #79 on: April 14, 2010, 09:24:50 AM »

Hmmm..had a go on the one row
http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=18509
think some of the marching soldiers may have got lost in the mud in the middle bit. lol! ;)
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