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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2010, 04:03:06 AM »

With current prices the A/D/G Hohner Compadre offers lots of possibilities ... I just happen to have one surplus to requirements ;D
Well if its at a bargain price and can be shipped to Australia, I may be interested.

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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2010, 09:07:11 AM »

Oz !!!!

Good luck with the search ray ;D

(this is one of those times when some indication of location (country at least, displayed in the left hand box) would have been useful ...)
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2010, 11:53:11 AM »

I've just got my hands on one of these

I'm sure my siblings will be begging me to practice the melodeon instead soon enough. lol!

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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2010, 10:29:46 PM »

I've just got my hands on one of these

Nice one. 8)

Takes a bit of time getting past the cat strangling phase, but stick with it...

I'd reccommend fiddleforum for advice/ideas/etc...

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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2010, 10:35:49 PM »

So far ive managed to make sounds by plucking strings as i can't get any noise using the bow. And the rosin isnt sticky and wont go onto the bow.:-(

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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2010, 10:53:47 PM »

If you thought melodeon was a difficult instrument to master, try the fiddle! It requires to master two techniques at the same time, the bow and the fingerings. I studied violin for a few years, I can tell you it's not easy!
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2010, 12:38:18 AM »

So far ive managed to make sounds by plucking strings as i can't get any noise using the bow. And the rosin isnt sticky and wont go onto the bow.:-(

If its new rosin you need to use sandpaper to roughen up the surface to start, (I use the things you get to file your nails).   If its a new bow you wont get any sound until you get it rosined.  Fiddlehangout is a very useful resource.

Good luck.

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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2010, 09:37:50 AM »

If you thought melodeon was a difficult instrument to master, try the fiddle! It requires to master two techniques at the same time, the bow and the fingerings. I studied violin for a few years, I can tell you it's not easy!


Too true! With a melodeon, you pick it up, press a button, and a reasonably nice sound comes out, and you can then start thinking about playing tunes. It takes a long, long time to get to this stage with a fiddle!

Many people can manage to teach themselves to play melodeon, but this is rarely true of the fiddle. I'd definitely recommend finding a teacher, ideally one who teaches folk fiddle rather than violin.
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2010, 10:00:19 AM »

As already mentioned the rosin needs scratching to produce the rosin dust that will go onto the bow. But yes, get a teacher is an absolute must,I agree with Pauline. Most violin teachers will be accepting if you say that you want to play folk music - regardless of whether they're 'classical' teachers or not. But it is an instrument that one needs to get the basics right on first - where you take it from there is then entirely up to you - best of luck with it.

BTW I've just finished reading about the history of the Art of Funerary Violin - it's an absolute hoot! I thoroughly recommend it! The book cover is pictured below. It is -despite appearences -a very funny book written by an exceptionally talented violinist and humourist.
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2010, 10:00:45 AM »

I'd be happy to just learn some scales and work on that for a year. I find it slightly wierd the instrument is so light. lol
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2010, 10:26:00 AM »

the nail file trick worked. thank you. just managed half of twinkle little star. lol! It might be my play by ear instrument.

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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2010, 10:29:23 AM »

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just managed half of twinkle little star. lol! It might be my play by ear instrument.


Good stuff! The melodeon's my play by ear instrument - which is such a release for me as I've been note-bound by all my other instruments!
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2010, 11:18:24 AM »

the nail file trick worked. thank you. just managed half of twinkle little star. lol! It might be my play by ear instrument.

Fiddle is a great play by ear instrument, all the notes are exactly where you expect them to be!   Unlike melodeon.
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2010, 09:59:51 AM »

I've just got my hands on one of these

Nice one. 8)

Takes a bit of time getting past the cat strangling phase, but stick with it...

I'd reccommend fiddleforum for advice/ideas/etc...

Ed J
looks useful. I'll go have a nose round.

the nail file trick worked. thank you. just managed half of twinkle little star. lol! It might be my play by ear instrument.

Fiddle is a great play by ear instrument, all the notes are exactly where you expect them to be!   Unlike melodeon.
I know..that surprised me at first. I thought logically the note must be the next string along....and there it was. lol! A novel experience.

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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2010, 11:47:15 PM »

As a relative newcomer to fiddle playing I think Steve has hit the nail on the head.  And it goes further,  it's not just playing drones etc on the open strings it's the resonance effects that the open strings give that help to create the big ringing sound that is a feature of many trad styles of fiddle.  It is possible to get resonance with stopped strings,  but it's much harder to do and much less dramatic in sound. 
Resonance:  (click on video at bottom. This would be immeasurably better with a squeezbox of any sort  behind them, but even so, rather nice... (:) (:)

http://hardangers.com/?page_id=37
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2010, 12:28:16 AM »

A much clearer video featuring the Hardanger fiddle (Hardingfela). Lovely playing.....
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2010, 12:50:21 AM »

A much clearer video featuring the Hardanger fiddle (Hardingfela). Lovely playing.....

yes - great fiddle and great performerette!   but is the instrument male or female ;) ;) hardingfela or hardingfele? I think it's a man in Devil's clothing  - 'fele >:E
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2010, 02:24:15 AM »

In my experience of irish fiddle music the most common scales are D G A, in that order. There are many historical reasons but I don't think conforming to melodeons/accordions is one of them.

Interesting to note that in your neck of the woods (Newfoundland) the key of choice seems to be A/D!
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2010, 10:33:41 AM »

A much clearer video featuring the Hardanger fiddle (Hardingfela). lovely playing.....

Interestiing instrument - I was introduced to it via Colin Ross in the 70's. I recall he said that most fiddles are strung with gut, but for the Hardanger they use the whole cat!
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Re: Playing with fiddle
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2010, 02:25:47 PM »

A much clearer video featuring the Hardanger fiddle (Hardingfela). lovely playing.....

Interestiing instrument - I was introduced to it via Colin Ross in the 70's. I recall he said that most fiddles are strung with gut, but for the Hardanger they use the whole cat!

A friend of mine, who is doing the violin making course at Newark, told me that gut strings were actually made of sheep or goat (I think) guts. The makers told everyone that they used cat guts as they didn't think people would want to kill a pwoor wickle pwussy cat to try and copy their string making methods!
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