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Thinking of taking up melodeon
« on: December 25, 2010, 08:44:27 PM »

  I'm thinking of learning melodeon  ;D      I already play a 30 button C/G Anglo and Looking at the tunes I play most often, the keys range through the usual C, D, G and A majors. There are also quite a few in Am, Dm and Em, Eb, F and one that I'm told is in G#
......... ( despite having a C/G Anglo I play very little Irish ) .......

so what melodeon tunings would be the best to cope please  
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2010, 08:48:14 PM »

Welcome anjle!

Guess we had better answer you now  ;D

There is of course no simple answer but if you want to play all those keys you really need a half step box (B/C, C#/D etc) or a B/C/C#.

More normal  >:E English style played use a D/G which will cover D, G, Em easily and Am and A with less ease.

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Others will be along after the hols with more/better info.

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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2010, 08:52:02 PM »

Guess we had better answer now  ;D

  Yes please  ;D
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2010, 08:52:35 PM »

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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2010, 09:40:17 PM »

There is of course no simple answer but if you want to play all those keys you really need a half step box (B/C, C#/D etc) or a B/C/C#.

Also, a 12/18 bass D/G with a separate half or full row of accidentals and reversals would be another option.
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2010, 12:29:04 AM »

Forget all that other key stuff - the best melodeon has 10 buttons in the right and 2 in the left!

Bring it on ...............
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2010, 02:54:57 AM »

See my post on http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,5678.new.html#new

.. essentially the same issue. You'll need a 3 row or a well chosen 2½ to cover all those keys and my comment on bass has much relevance. Basically most melodeons function best in 'related' keys and Eb may be difficult assuming you go standard D/G. You might like to keep such tunes for the anglo. 

My Oakwood 3 row covers into Eb (lacks chords), C and F - layout on http://chrisryall.net/scalefinder.xls (it hates Ab though)
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2010, 11:16:36 AM »

See my post on http://forum.melodeon.net/index.php/topic,5678.new.html#new

.. essentially the same issue. You'll need a 3 row or a well chosen 2½ to cover all those keys and my comment on bass has much relevance. Basically most melodeons function best in 'related' keys and Eb may be difficult assuming you go standard D/G. You might like to keep such tunes for the anglo. 

My Oakwood 3 row covers into Eb (lacks chords), C and F - layout on http://chrisryall.net/scalefinder.xls (it hates Ab though)

 Thanks for the links, interesting reading,  the G/C/acc layouts seem to cover most possibilities  ;D  now to start saving up (or getting lucky with the lottery)
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2010, 09:34:38 PM »

if you want it all in one box ( playable in praactical terms) the BCC# is difficult to emulate! otherwise perhaps more t;han one melodeon?

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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2010, 01:57:24 AM »

if you want it all in one box ( playable in praactical terms) the BCC# is difficult to emulate! otherwise perhaps more t;han one melodeon?

george

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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2010, 02:17:44 AM »

Don't save up. 

Get what you can afford now, recognizing that it will be just to start on, like a 20 button anglo.

Suggest either a BC, GC or GCF.
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2010, 11:30:13 AM »

Don't save up. 

Get what you can afford now, recognizing that it will be just to start on, like a 20 button anglo.

Suggest either a BC, GC or GCF.

 Good idea  (:) I'm going to ask every melodeon player I see if they'll let me have a go (with the offer of a pint as thanks     :|glug   )        That way I'll get a fair idea of the different types, then I can get a reasonable priced 2 (or 3) row to learn on while putting a bit aside to get a better one in the future    ;D
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2010, 11:55:27 AM »

That melodeon player is likely to be MAD and as such might (if on therapy) be willing to lend you one of his many instruments over say a month (bottle of wine? :|glug) - just a thought
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2010, 03:42:30 PM »

My New Year Resolution (the first for oinks years) will be "I am NOT going to buy a new melodeon this year". It can't be hard because I managed to keep it until I bought my first, but they're a bit like chinese meals, aren't they?  :||: :||: :||: :Ph
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2010, 07:44:40 PM »

Don't save up. 

Get what you can afford now, recognizing that it will be just to start on, like a 20 button anglo.

Suggest either a BC, GC or GCF.

Agreed! Very much so.

My New Year Resolution (the first for oinks years) will be "I am NOT going to buy a new melodeon this year". It can't be hard because I managed to keep it until I bought my first, but they're a bit like chinese meals, aren't they?  :||: :||: :||: :Ph

Hah, mine too as it happens :P My resolution is not to buy any instrument except for maybe a new Charango, unless I see something unmissable or very cheap or if I have a better excuse.
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2010, 11:57:24 PM »

I don't know if this is the first rule of melodeon acquisition, but it is among the top rules:

The instrument you are absolutely convinced is your final, perfect and penultimate box, is not.
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2010, 12:00:54 AM »

My resolution is not to buy any instrument except for maybe a new Charango, unless I see something unmissable or very cheap or if I have a better excuse.

So that probably means one more instrument every two to three months, unless you cancel your ebay membership.  ;D
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2010, 12:22:53 AM »

My resolution is not to buy any instrument except for maybe a new Charango, unless I see something unmissable or very cheap or if I have a better excuse.

So that probably means one more instrument every two to three months, unless you cancel your ebay membership.  ;D

Quite probably, given that over approx 15 months I got my mits on 8 accordions and sold one.

EDIT: I should add that only two of those cost over £100, none cost over £200 and almost all of them were or are complete wrecks :P
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2010, 11:41:48 AM »

Forget all that other key stuff - the best melodeon has 10 buttons in the right and 2 in the left!
What a profound and fundamental statement! I completely agree.
Even when I play a two or three-row, I tend to play on a single row with 2 left buttons (very often 1) only.
This is the most natural and oldest style of melodeon playing.
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Re: Thinking of taking up melodeon
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2010, 11:41:07 PM »

Forget all that other key stuff - the best melodeon has 10 buttons in the right and 2 in the left!
What a profound and fundamental statement! I completely agree.
Even when I play a two or three-row, I tend to play on a single row with 2 left buttons (very often 1) only.
This is the most natural and oldest style of melodeon playing.

And arguably, the least musical, harmonically ;) I HATE hearing tunes played on the one-row without the subdominant. It just sounds wrong :(
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