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Shooting
« on: February 05, 2011, 12:34:53 AM »

Just finished uploading a new video to YouTube. I shamelessly 'borrowed' the arrangement from Mr Ian Dedic of this parish because it's so damned good! Cheers, Ian!  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5HEQTw4N3M

Comments etc welcome.  (:)
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 01:13:22 AM »

Well Done Ollie. That was Brilliant. Inspiration is a wonderful thing  :M

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Re: Shooting
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 09:39:54 AM »

Ollie like a prisoner you were chained to the accordion.
the criminal offence being youth with talent. hope you are
punished with many years of playing.
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 11:50:37 AM »

Nice one, Ollie.
Made me want to go back at look at the tune again. Its part of our dance repertoire but doesn't surface very often.

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Re: Shooting
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 12:43:04 PM »

A superb and inspiring  novel version there. I particularly liked the dramatic gaps and high octave continuation at about 2'00.   This tune conceivably "might have been collected" from the exotic Shetland morris at Ollaberry ::)  - though given our star's location more likely the rather closer Olmstead  ;)  

I hope it'll spread like wildfire and perhaps become a classic. Morris Lives!  :M

btw: even the commonplace Adderbury version can be played 90% on the pull,  due to its limited palate of notes! It sounds a tad 'minor' against the available LH chords, but is a nice lift if one's side is tolerant of such things.
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 07:04:26 PM »

Great playing Ollie and this simply adds to the mystery of what Woodchurch Morris are doing. They dance Shooting to two tunes both of which seemed to be hacked about versions of known tunes. One is danced to an odd version of Beaux of London City (Badby) and the other is danced to something very like the one you played although what you are playing sounds much more minor than the tune Woodchurch use which seems to be a  version of Shooting (Brackley).

I had both tunes transcribed to abc by Steve Freereeder from recordings I made at a couple of the practices, I'll post the abc's shortly as the files are on another machine ...
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2011, 07:25:28 PM »

Now I'm intrigued by Chris' reference to 'Adderbury Shooting'. One of the tunes here is referred to by that name but I couldn't find any mention of Adderbury dancing this or of the tune they might use, it's certainly not in Bacon's black book. Anyway here are the abc files for the two tunes, the second one is nearest to the tune you're playing Ollie but it's a lot more major!

I was going to upload the recordings to Onmvoice but the site seems to be down at the moment.


X:7
T:Beaux of London City (Badby)
C:Traditional morris tune
M:6/8
Q:108
K:G
P:A
D |: G2 A B2 G | BdB  GAB |[M:9/8] c2 B  AGF  G2 D |
[M:6/8] G2 A  B2 G | BdB  GAB |[M:9/8] c2 B  AGF G3 ||
P:B1
[M:6/8] d2 B A2 G |Bcd G2 G | A2 B c2 d | e2 d cBA |
GFE DGB |[M:9/8] dcB cBA G3 ||
P:B2
[M:6/8] d2 B A2 G |Bcd G2 G | A2 B c2 d | e2 d cBA |
GFE DGB  |1 [M:9/8] dcB cBA G2 D :|2 [M:9/8] dcB cBA H "last time" G2 |]
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W:This tune is a version of Beaux of London City (Badby) as performed by
W:Woodchurch Morris Men from Kent.
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W:Transcribed by Steve Freereeder from a recording supplied by Peter Dunk, January 2011.

X:25
T:Shooting
T:aka 'Adderbury Shooting'
C:Traditional morris tune
M:9/8
Q:108
K:G
P:A
D |: G2 G BAG Bcd | G2 G BAG A3 | G2 G BAG Bcd |1 GAG B2A G2 D :|2 GAG B2A G3||
P:B
|:d2 B A2 G Bcd | G2 G  A2 B c3 | d2 B A2 G Bcd | GAG B2A G3 :|
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W:Transcribed by Steve Freereeder from a recording supplied by Peter Dunk, 16th January 2011.
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2011, 07:31:03 PM »

tallship: Shooting is the slang for "Beaux of London City"
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2011, 07:42:59 PM »

tallship: Shooting is the slang for "Beaux of London City"

So what is 'Adderbury Shooting' slang for? Oh and the above abc for Beaux Badby is a long way from the printed versions I have!
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2011, 09:07:43 PM »

tallship: Shooting is the slang for "Beaux of London City"

So what is 'Adderbury Shooting' slang for? Oh and the above abc for Beaux Badby is a long way from the printed versions I have!

Adderbury Shooting means Beaux of London City from Adderbury :P (Black Book p7-9).

There are many versions of the tune, most of which are in 9/8. The Badby version is in a mixture of 9/8 and 6/8, which makes it FUN. (:)
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2011, 10:20:21 PM »

So the tunes from Brackley and Hinton that are actually called Shooting have nothing to do with it then? I presume the written dotted rhythm in Bacon is optional too? I'm currently learning Bean Setting with the dotted rhythm extracted, par for the course it seems!
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2011, 10:46:11 PM »

The tunes for Hinton and Brackley are afair the same tune, just called shooting rather than Beaux. No idea about the dotted rhythm, depends on the dance I expect.
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2011, 11:18:30 PM »

The tunes for Hinton and Brackley are afair the same tune, just called shooting rather than Beaux. No idea about the dotted rhythm, depends on the dance I expect.

Fair enough, but you do realise whence my frustration emerges? I'm playing catch up here and it's far from easy!
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2011, 11:45:53 PM »

I think it's one of those typical simple morris tunes that, if played well, becomes something very special.  :||: :|||:

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Re: Shooting
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2011, 11:57:15 PM »

I think it's one of those typical simple morris tunes that, if played well, becomes something very special.  :||: :|||:

And Ollie pulled it off!!!!
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2011, 01:54:41 AM »

If you think it's great to listen to, it is even better to dance to. Absolute joy, such lift to that tune and that arrangement. You are spot on Sandy (:) Mind you, Ollie's never danced to it either, since he is the only one who knows that arrangement and has a box worthy of it.
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Re: Shooting
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2011, 08:27:56 AM »

I think it's one of those typical simple morris tunes that, if played well, becomes something very special.  :||: :|||:

And Ollie pulled it off!!!!

DTN  Stop finishing my sentences for me  ;D.............

Ollie, I'm hoping you might share some info about your arrangement..... :||:

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Re: Shooting
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2011, 08:44:41 AM »

Sandy does have 'special knowledge' of Adderbury  ::)

Hhhmm, involved in the new Adderbury side with nearly all keeny beany novices including myself. I'm hoping we can use this tune now though  :P

I don't know how Adderbury actually dance to this, I've only seen the Hammersmith Morris Men perform a stunning version on video.

Is this a particular version that you play Ollie, would it be the same as Adderbury in timing  ???

 :M learning all the time  (:)  I'm sure I'll ask the Adderbury men if I bump into them during the week  :|glug

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Re: Shooting
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2011, 08:53:55 AM »

The Adderbury tune is:

X:3
T:Beaux of London City, Adderbury
M:9/8
L:1/8
P:A(AB)6
K:G
P:A
|:D|G2G BAG B<dD|G2 G B2G A2D|
G2G BAG B<dD|GDG B2A G2:|
P:B
|:z|d2c BAG Bd2|A2 A A2B c3|
d2c BAG BdD|GDG B2A G2:|

Quite hard to play in a major way and loud as most of the A music is on the push. Most everyone changes the 2nd bar to have a longer A to get some air in the bellows.

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Re: Shooting
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2011, 09:46:04 AM »

Quite hard to play in a major way and loud as most of the A music is on the push.

I count 22/29 notes available on pull on a 2 row ??? - though I'd agree the implication - the chords are then quite 'minor' in tone (Em, C and D pull work, perhaps an A bass or 3 button Am too.

For "trad morris" it's defo a push tune, but I understand the present village sides do it 'differently', and presumably wasn't ever collected a a melodeon piece. (It sounds pipe/tabor to my ear - but did Blunt actually meet a musician)?
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