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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #80 on: May 06, 2011, 09:57:14 PM »

It seems to me often tunes sound better in key of F on my accordion.  I like B flat when I play the piano.  So as an experiment I have tried to play Ash Grove two times in the same way on my accordion.  The first time in the key of G followed by the second time in B flat.   This is a cheat since I am using a CBA so the fingering is identical for both keys.

see results here  http://www.onmvoice.com/play.php?a=51503


I like B flat for my accordion too.  Don't know if its ear fatigue with the common keys or perhaps reeds are worn in the key of G.  I wanted to try F and D by my accordion has a seasonal allergy to pine pollen stuffing up some of the low notes in those keys.
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #81 on: May 07, 2011, 12:47:34 AM »

I'm still figuring out how to play this tune myself! I'm leaning towards a version in G...

Heh. So much for that! I did *try* to play it straight, then I discovered how nice it sounds in a minor key, and then I figured out that it really makes a cracking jig with a bit of shoehorning, rewiring and generally ripping it apart. It sounds nothing like the original now, I admit, but it did start out as the Ash Grove, and if you listen *really* carefully, you might just be able to hear the original tune gasping for air, trying to escape.

So here we have ... the Ash Grove Jig!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdrKGhVp4gw

Played on the Hohner Preciosa in Bb/Eb (so this is in C minor again), because let's face it, it's the zippiest, boogiest box I've got!

Cheers,

Clive

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #82 on: May 07, 2011, 07:36:21 AM »

Clive - you're as loopy as I am mate.... ;)

Nice butchering of The Ash Grove, interesting treatment as usual from your good self. Nicely done sir.

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #83 on: May 07, 2011, 09:20:01 AM »

Without prior knowledge I wouldn't have recognised it as having anything to to with the Ash Grove - but it's beautiful anyway  (:)
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #84 on: May 07, 2011, 09:21:01 AM »

Clive, that's absolutely brilliant! I'm off to the practice cabin now with my Preciosa to try and work out how you've done it....

If I can, then it'll find it's way into the band repertoire....deserves to be more widely played like this!

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #85 on: May 07, 2011, 10:48:51 AM »

I'm not a huge fan of the original tune, but that is fantastic! :D Definitely going to learn that.

Can anyone transcribe it? I'd love to, but I've not got the time to either transcribe or learn by ear (damned exams). Thanks.  (:)
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #86 on: May 07, 2011, 10:52:36 AM »

Clive, that's absolutely brilliant! I'm off to the practice cabin now with my Preciosa to try and work out how you've done it....

If I can, then it'll find it's way into the band repertoire....deserves to be more widely played like this!

Cheers,
Guy

Thanks and good luck! It all plays nicely on a 2 row 8 bass; there's a couple of accidentals in the B music, which are mostly grace notes and can be ignored/substituted if necessary... in fact, on the video I probably play 2 or 3 different variations for the same section. Take your pick! I quite like the 'diddly diddly' one  ;D

Cheers,

Clive

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #87 on: May 07, 2011, 02:22:56 PM »

Clive, that is absolutely brilliant!  Have to work that one out on the D/G as my next project.   ;D
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #88 on: May 07, 2011, 04:58:28 PM »

I've stuck with the traditional tune as i would rather play other tunes than this one really  >:E ... i've not posted for a while so heres a quick rendition of my ASH GROVE played on my AD Loffet box. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxQVJ8E0ZSQ

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #89 on: May 07, 2011, 09:17:17 PM »

I wasn't going to post a version this month as I wasn't too inspired by the tune until I heard Almo's most excellent version. So my attempt is inspired by and dedicated to Almo. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z6vN6O3xQ0
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #90 on: May 08, 2011, 08:24:19 AM »

I wasn't going to post a version this month as I wasn't too inspired by the tune until I heard Almo's most excellent version. So my attempt is inspired by and dedicated to Almo. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z6vN6O3xQ0

Hiya Mcgroover,
Nice one, thanks for the comments - I'm glad you had a go, I think it fit nicely in a reggae version. ;) I'll have to do a video for YouTube when I'm in a daft mood again ..

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #91 on: May 08, 2011, 07:19:56 PM »

Aww, I was reasonably happy with my original attempt at The Ash Grove when I first did it, but now I've seen what others have been able to do, I feel a bit  :'( .  I know it shouldn't really be any sort of surprise, but DTN's, in particular, just leaves me feeling like I don't know what I'm doing.  That middle section, where Derek takes it into those minor variations, seems just magical to me - yet it just comes down to one person playing one box.

Almo's, too, impresses me, in so far that he's taken a studio-based approach to his arrangements and made it work in a way that really sets him apart.  To me, I see that as a reminder that there are so many more approaches and possibilities available, if you take the trouble to look for them.

I guess I just need to go and practice more.  A lot more...
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #92 on: May 08, 2011, 07:49:39 PM »

Aww, I was reasonably happy with my original attempt at The Ash Grove when I first did it, but now I've seen what others have been able to do, I feel a bit  :'(

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Thanks for your comment, I agree with what you say about Derek's version too.

The main point of the Tune of The Month to me, is a way of exploring a tune yourself and seeing what others do with it as well. There is always something in everyone's posts which we can all learn from and take on board.

I'm always interested in what people do with a tune, too many to name and thank - but in no particular order Derek, Clive, Anahata, Squeezy and everyone who would make the list too long including some bloke called GBH - Guy someone.... ;)  (lol - Derek and Clive - wasn't that Pete Cook and Dudley Moore...!!)

We all have our own way of knocking out a tune.....

Keep squeezing

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #93 on: May 08, 2011, 11:10:49 PM »

Aww, I was reasonably happy with my original attempt at The Ash Grove when I first did it, but now I've seen what others have been able to do, I feel a bit  :'( .  I know it shouldn't really be any sort of surprise, but DTN's, in particular, just leaves me feeling like I don't know what I'm doing.  That middle section, where Derek takes it into those minor variations, seems just magical to me - yet it just comes down to one person playing one box.

Almo's, too, impresses me, in so far that he's taken a studio-based approach to his arrangements and made it work in a way that really sets him apart.  To me, I see that as a reminder that there are so many more approaches and possibilities available, if you take the trouble to look for them.

I guess I just need to go and practice more.  A lot more...

We all do mate - that's the fun! Everyone has different strengths, and brings different things to their versions, but equally that means that everyone can learn something off other videos. Chordally on the treble, you (and many others!) are stronger than me; I guess I really should practice that part of my playing, and what you're doing. Squeezy's bass work is just out of this world, and frankly I don't think I'll get that with any amount of practice. Likewise, Almo's production quality makes me aware of what can be done; I don't feel the need to match it, but it does help me improve my recording standards a bit. I have a liking for slow stuff, messing around with time signatures, and tune modes, and hopefully other people can get a few ideas off that. With this particular tune, if you haven't tried it as a minor tune, do so (just hack the key signature in the ABC file to Dmin and then transpose it to Am, Em or Bm), because it's *gorgeous*... it doesn't need to be sped up into a jig really; it's great as a slow minor tune, and it's a snippet of that that you're hearing in DTN's lovely version.

Cheers,

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #94 on: May 09, 2011, 03:45:54 PM »

I'm still figuring out how to play this tune myself! I'm leaning towards a version in G...

Heh. So much for that! I did *try* to play it straight, then I discovered how nice it sounds in a minor key, and then I figured out that it really makes a cracking jig with a bit of shoehorning, rewiring and generally ripping it apart. It sounds nothing like the original now, I admit, but it did start out as the Ash Grove, and if you listen *really* carefully, you might just be able to hear the original tune gasping for air, trying to escape.

So here we have ... the Ash Grove Jig!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdrKGhVp4gw

Played on the Hohner Preciosa in Bb/Eb (so this is in C minor again), because let's face it, it's the zippiest, boogiest box I've got!

Cheers,

Clive

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #95 on: May 09, 2011, 10:39:01 PM »

When it looked as if Mr Beveridge's Maggot was going to win the pole for tune of the month I chivvied Danny Chapman to have a go at it as he's already played it fairly well on concertina.

I don't think he's a member here yet but perhaps he's a lurker. Seems like he's had a bit of a go at the Ash Grove and even acknowledged melnet's tune of the month as his inspiration!
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #96 on: May 09, 2011, 11:20:52 PM »

When it looked as if Mr Beveridge's Maggot was going to win the pole for tune of the month I chivvied Danny Chapman to have a go at it as he's already played it fairly well on concertina.

I don't think he's a member here yet but perhaps he's a lurker. Seems like he's had a bit of a go at the Ash Grove and even acknowledged melnet's tune of the month as his inspiration!

That's lovely. This tune has really become changed for me. Thanks to Mel.net TOTM squeezers. Thanks Danny and Tallship  (:)

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #97 on: May 10, 2011, 12:14:51 AM »

I don't think he's a member here yet but perhaps he's a lurker. Seems like he's had a bit of a go at the Ash Grove and even acknowledged melnet's tune of the month as his inspiration!

Wow! I'd forgotten he played cello too, and I don't think I've seen him play a melodeon before.

My first thought was : hey, I could do that  (:)
And my second thought was: no, I couldn't  :(
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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #98 on: May 10, 2011, 12:18:27 PM »


My first thought was : hey, I could do that  (:)
And my second thought was: no, I couldn't  :(


Oh yes you could  >:E       :D

I've just had a look at this tune and had a play through. There's one very dodgy part in the middle that sounds like the National Anthem (and not the Welsh one  :P)...  and that's just putting me off.............I'll work through it though  :|||:

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Re: Tune of the Month for May 2011: The Ash Grove
« Reply #99 on: May 11, 2011, 12:30:38 AM »

Here's my ditty of a dirge  ::)
I used a strange low sounding single reed setting on the DG Saltarelle Nuage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVoAuDh_91o

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