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Alan Morley

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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2011, 07:06:33 AM »

I realised yesterday that I can play a melody and sing the song at the same time - must be because the two things are connected.

I'm stuffed when I have to break the link and play and speak something totally unconnected with the tune.... :||:
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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2011, 11:20:13 AM »

I genuinely don't think it can be done.  I've yet to meet a box player who can compose a sentence and say it while playing, there are precious few of us who have overcome the "melodeon face".

However - on nearly every other instrument that doesn't use the mouth - I've seen examples of people talking and playing.  That goes for piano accordion players too.  I know people can learn to sing songs while playing which uses a different bit of the brain to speech and I know I can bark rudimentary words while playing so I've come the the possibly rash conclusion that the bit of the brain which allows you to think push/pull and process that information is the same one used for grammar or very close to it and that just doesn't allow one to do both.

Please prove me wrong!  I doubt anyone will put funding behind a research project concerning the area of the brain used in diatonic free reed instruments, so we may never know.

I do it all the time while playing for Smiffs, usually to extract the urine out of somebody who's made a cock-up or to ask the audience to encourage leapfrogees to stand up higher.

Maybe it's just a matter of having the tune ingrained into your DNA by having played it for years, thus leaving some spare brain capacity for banter.

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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2011, 03:11:19 PM »

I have always found it hard to converse whilst playing even after many years of playing. I play a three row B/C/C# and can just about shout out a key change, yet I know three excellent three row players (B/C/C#) who front bands or work as a one man band and seem to be able to chat when playing.  Each one also sings as he plays.  Here is an example of one on a recent TV Talent Show on an Irish speaking TV Station.  Patrick O'Sullivan.  Incidentally this guy also plays guitar so maybe that helps. :||:
http://youtu.be/FEikUErZmwM
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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2011, 08:38:57 AM »

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  Incidentally this guy also plays guitar so maybe that helps. :||:
http://youtu.be/FEikUErZmwM

Playing guitar doesn't help me...it's easy enough when playing ryhthm guitar, but playing a lead break and chatting...impossible...
I don't know if bass player can do it as they really play a melody line......must be same a playing a lead break...

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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2011, 12:53:51 PM »

I have always found it hard to converse whilst playing even after many years of playing. I play a three row B/C/C# and can just about shout out a key change, yet I know three excellent three row players (B/C/C#) who front bands or work as a one man band and seem to be able to chat when playing.  Each one also sings as he plays.  Here is an example of one on a recent TV Talent Show on an Irish speaking TV Station.  Patrick O'Sullivan.  Incidentally this guy also plays guitar so maybe that helps. :||:
http://youtu.be/FEikUErZmwM

looks to be an interesting BCC# mengascini ? 60 bass - anybody know anything about it - is it a stock model or a conversion of a 3 row continental etc etc

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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2011, 12:36:32 AM »

The Mengascine box featured is a B/C/C#. I have heard that Mengascine have also made a four row box tuned B/C/C#/D. A bonus for three row players when it comes to playing the Flat keys.
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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2011, 11:34:28 AM »

O K Ollie  I accept defeat  :-\
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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2011, 11:51:07 AM »

Lin, we could  attempt the impossible at Whitby!

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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2011, 12:16:06 PM »

Hi George
Right .. heres what to do ..
at your slow and stead session in whichever pub is still surviving at Whitby we could all practise together, all the room shout "change" and "Hup" during every tune, hopefully at the right time too!!  ;D    by the end of the week we may just have got there!!   >:E
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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2011, 01:54:56 PM »

I've tried to turn it in to a smile, but it still doesn't look quite right  ;D

You've definitely fooled some people -- I saw a thread (possibly on your forum) about how much fun you always seemed to be having when playing, and I thought 'ahah! Pretty sure this is the rictus grin version of melodeon face'.

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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2011, 04:45:06 PM »

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I do it all the time while playing for Smiffs, usually to extract the urine out of somebody who's made a cock-up or to ask the audience to encourage leapfrogees to stand up higher.

Maybe it's just a matter of having the tune ingrained into your DNA by having played it for years, thus leaving some spare brain capacity for banter.

Ian

Ian is understating the case.  I have seen him play whilst being interviewed by a TV crew.  Scary stuff.
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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2011, 09:39:01 PM »

dead easy to talk whilst playing. zzzzzzzzz
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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2011, 01:04:11 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hauz1TvNBvQ&feature=related shows the rehearsal. Is that Ellie of this parish? There's Ian from West Wales  with the magnificent beard and pony-tail - was trying to remember his name yesterday - walking across the foreground.

How many others can be identified?
Chas (Fidgit) was in that lineup
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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2011, 11:25:35 PM »

I genuinely don't think it can be done.  I've yet to meet a box player who can compose a sentence and say it while playing, there are precious few of us who have overcome the "melodeon face".

However - on nearly every other instrument that doesn't use the mouth - I've seen examples of people talking and playing.  That goes for piano accordion players too.  I know people can learn to sing songs while playing which uses a different bit of the brain to speech and I know I can bark rudimentary words while playing so I've come the the possibly rash conclusion that the bit of the brain which allows you to think push/pull and process that information is the same one used for grammar or very close to it and that just doesn't allow one to do both.

Please prove me wrong!  I doubt anyone will put funding behind a research project concerning the area of the brain used in diatonic free reed instruments, so we may never know.

I do it all the time while playing for Smiffs, usually to extract the urine out of somebody who's made a cock-up or to ask the audience to encourage leapfrogees to stand up higher.

Maybe it's just a matter of having the tune ingrained into your DNA by having played it for years, thus leaving some spare brain capacity for banter.

Ian

I think that's a very good point. I did it again whilst playing for the b****y Winster Processional last weekend; it was the 20somethingth time through the tune, so my fingers knew exactly what they were doing.
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Re: CONVERSING WHILST PLAYING
« Reply #54 on: July 29, 2011, 07:16:20 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hauz1TvNBvQ&feature=related shows the rehearsal. Is that Ellie of this parish? There's Ian from West Wales  with the magnificent beard and pony-tail - was trying to remember his name yesterday - walking across the foreground.

How many others can be identified?
Chas (Fidgit) was in that lineup

...and I'm No8....
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