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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2008, 09:54:56 PM »

Japanese Kabuki accompaniment.

I just don't see it working...

But then I saw this:

http://www.amazon.com/This-Iz-Japanese-Kabuki-Rock/dp/B0012PGN94

And my head hurt...

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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2008, 11:15:30 PM »

any instrument is inappropriate for Jazz. 

 :-[  What about piano, bass, drums, brass, and woodwinds?  These do pretty stinking well.

But yes...please no folk instruments for jazz...PLEASE. :P
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2008, 12:19:27 AM »

Lee Scratch Perry (Jamaican reggae artist and producer) once said:

"The bass is the brain, the drums are the heartbeat. Everything else is a distraction"

I always take solace in that quote when assaulted by twenty melodeons thrashing Princess Royal at quadruple tempo.

.................. and what's wrong with jazz on folk instruments? The banjo has been at it for yonks.
Try melodeonist Luke Daniels for starters. Also, Tony Hall plays a few Humphrey Littleton tunes. Cool.  8)

Now, folk on jazz instruments gets up my nose (Brass Monkey are the exception). Bloody sax players on the folk scene sound like they'd be better off with a kazoo!!!! Rant, rant, etc.   >:(
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2008, 01:18:22 AM »

.................. and what's wrong with jazz on folk instruments? The banjo has been at it for yonks.

Only dixie-style and ragtime...please (but, I would call that jass, anyway..)
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2008, 04:49:25 PM »

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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2008, 05:09:52 PM »

But the violin is an orchestral instrument--and therefore a traditional jazz instrument! (kind of).  No, no, no!!!...no "jazz" on folk instruments I tell you!
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2008, 06:15:51 PM »

But yes the other way around is horrible... folk sax ?! horrid.
Folk sax and clarinet can be pretty damned good, especially in a session. We had a young girl have a go at morris on a sax. It sounded good, but she couldn't handle playing in G and D on an Eb instrument. Brain damage  :(
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2008, 07:43:40 PM »

C melody sax is a nice way round that problem.
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2008, 08:01:44 PM »

Yuk!  ;)
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2008, 10:18:37 PM »

Frank Trumbauer still sounds good to me!
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2008, 12:53:46 AM »

Sorry ,didn't mean to slag off the C melody, Frank is indeed the man.
It's just that I become catatonic when I hear one in a ceilidh band or morris side.
Still, takes all sorts.  ;)
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2008, 06:43:27 AM »

.................. and what's wrong with jazz on folk instruments? The banjo has been at it for yonks.
Bloody sax players on the folk scene sound like they'd be better off with a kazoo!!!! Rant, rant, etc.   >:(
Just three things before I kill you in a very painful way Rees, >:(
1) The banjo was originally used in jazz only because the guitar was lost in the early acoustic recordings so the 'jo was substituted, initially for recording only.
2) You are the same guy who offered me a couple of tunes with my tenor at the Mayor's Thames Festival gig aren't you? I now have to re-file Cajun and Zydeco from my 'Folk/French/Afro American' category into 'Jazz', very difficult at my time of life.
3) Please refrain from using archival slang terms like 'yonks'. It makes me feel young again and not, as I prefer, a crotchety old git.
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2008, 09:50:02 AM »



Now then our Bill, just before you exterminate me, please allow me a few last words, a cigarette and a plane ticket to Bolivia.

1. We have a local farmer who is a great jazz guitarist but prefers to play his six string banjo in loud sessions.

2. I'm a big fan of the sax in Zydeco which is essentially black rhythm and blues played on accordion. Clifton Chenier regularly used a sax player in his Zydeco band as does Buckwheat Zydeco and occasionally Joe le Taxi.
Cajun music no, that's redneck territory.

3. Wakey, Wakey, the six-five special coming down the line. I asked the witch doctor, oo ee oo ah ah, if you miss this one you'll never get another one, beedy beedy bom bom and other items from my gander-bag.  8)
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2008, 10:09:50 AM »

Now "C" Soprano would be really good - but I don't think I've ever seen one round the patch.  Bb Soprano does not give too many problems anyway.
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #54 on: August 28, 2008, 11:15:18 AM »

Twice in one day. You really are trying to bring on the heart attack, aren't you Rees?>:(

1) Amongst us pickers or semi-picker pedants, the banjo is the five string instrument with the third string normally tuned to G as a starting point. All other forms need an adjectival prefix, e,g, long arm, zither, ukele or in your quoted example, guitar banjo.

2) Harry Simoneaux is surely Cajun rather than Zydeco. As a further thought most of the good Cajun artists are dead, not that I'm dropping any hints Rees. ;) Over tight collars and embarrassment leads to red necks.

3) Living in Croydon is like living in the past, we have six Archbishops of Canterbury snuggled up in the Parish Churchyard, a local shop that has some Quad HiFi in stock and the Whitgift Almshouses. You could provide an improved image for us Brythonic Celts by adopting a more modern speech form.

4) Still maintain that the Special Hell for Musos would be a compulsory Ring Cycle with an all melodeon orchestra.

Falseknight, presumably still on the road,
Young Adolphe did design two ranges of saxophone, the Bb/Eb range originally for Military Band use and the C/F for Orchestral use.

Please, and this is an appeal to everyone, do not post the obvious reference to saxophones, recorders or indeed some melodeons. ;)
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2008, 11:40:55 AM »

The perfect instrument for jazz is, obviously, the acoustic air guitar followed by air banjo and air drums preferably played somewhere north of Spitzbergen.
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2008, 11:54:46 AM »

OK, it's confession time. I PLAY THE BANJO TOO!!!
5 string G tuning.

I call it my "download banjo" because in the old days when I was tied to a dial-up connection I used to play it a lot. It sat by the computer and I strummed happily away waiting for things to happen on screen. Now in these these broadband times it hardly ever comes out of the case. Shame really.

I've been trying to get the hang of frailing for years. Bayou Seco stayed here and gave me a four day frailing lesson - all I got was bleeding fingers.
I did once have a lesson from Martin Carthy who demonstrated the style, bum, titty, etc. He told me to do that for ten days and I'd have it.
Later, Karen Cater saw that I was still struggling and gave me the same lesson. She told me to practice for 3 days and I'd have it. I told her that Martin had said it would be ten days. She said it takes Martin Carthy ten days to tune a banjo!  ;D
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2008, 12:27:04 PM »

I just remembered where I used to play my guitar all the time, and that was also whilst waiting for websites to load. Those little moments have now been lost....
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2008, 12:38:54 PM »

Harry Simoneaux is a Cajun person who plays Swamp Pop music not Cajun music.

I am a Welsh pedant (don't say peasant) who plays Zydeco music not Cajun music.  :P

Bring back dial-up, then I could spend even longer on this forum.
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Re: Most inappropriate genre for melodeon
« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2008, 01:25:02 PM »

Bring back dial-up, then I could spend even longer on this forum.

You're welcome to my 'broadband'...loads of time to play waiting for anything to load  :D
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