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Yet another very close run race! This month's winner is Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel (also known as Fiddler Locke's, and maybe also as Dennis Crowther's Number 3) - yet another classic English tune, here demonstrated for us by the wonderful Ed Rennie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxO7dXysXyg

We had a very strong month of submissions last month, so let's keep it up - looking forward to hearing your versions of this classic!

Cheers,

Clive

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 07:13:24 AM »

X:32
T:Beatrice Hills 3 Handed Reel
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D
FG|B2 A2 AFAd|c2 BA B2 ed|cdef gece|edcB A2 FA|
B2 A2 AFAd|c2 BA B2 ed|cdef gece|e2 d2 d2|
A2|B2 AF DF A2|A2 GF G2 EF|GFED C2 E2|G2 F2 F2 A2|
B2 AF DF A2|A2 GF G2 EF|GFED C2 E2|E2 D2 D2||

Re Dennis Crowther's No 3, it is a similar tune but the B music is different enough for it to not be the same tune (does that make sense?)

X:106
T:Dennis Crowther's No 3
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D
(3FAd|B,2 A,2 A,2 (3FAd|C2 B,2 B,2 ED|CDEF GFEC|EDCB, A,2 (3FAd|
B,2 A,2 A,2 (3FAd|C2 B,2 B,2 ED|CDEF GFEC|E2 D2 D4||
A2 FD A,2 DF|A2 GF G4|G2 CB, A,2 CE|G2 FE F4|
A2 FD A,2 DF|A2 GF G4|GFED CA,B,C|E2 D2 D4||

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 08:37:42 AM »

X:32
T:Beatrice Hills 3 Handed Reel
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D
FG|B2 A2 AFAd|c2 BA B2 ed|cdef gece|edcB A2 FA|
B2 A2 AFAd|c2 BA B2 ed|cdef gece|e2 d2 d2|
A2|B2 AF DF A2|A2 GF G2 EF|GFED C2 E2|G2 F2 F2 A2|
B2 AF DF A2|A2 GF G2 EF|GFED C2 E2|E2 D2 D2||

Re Dennis Crowther's No 3, it is a similar tune but the B music is different enough for it to not be the same tune (does that make sense?)

X:106
T:Dennis Crowther's No 3
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:D
(3FAd|B,2 A,2 A,2 (3FAd|C2 B,2 B,2 ED|CDEF GFEC|EDCB, A,2 (3FAd|
B,2 A,2 A,2 (3FAd|C2 B,2 B,2 ED|CDEF GFEC|E2 D2 D4||
A2 FD A,2 DF|A2 GF G4|G2 CB, A,2 CE|G2 FE F4|
A2 FD A,2 DF|A2 GF G4|GFED CA,B,C|E2 D2 D4||


Yep! Thanks Lester!

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 09:38:11 AM »

I'm first this month, played on a Hohner 1 Row 4 Stop in D

http://soundcloud.com/alison-10/beatrice-hills

Excuse slight fluff in second go through  ;)

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 11:01:00 AM »

i had every intention of getting back to posting in TotM but alas no.  i am attending a workshop in the latter part of the month (run by Jerry Tozer) the melodeon component of it being under the leadership of IanD.  Ian has mailed out 22 tunes and then blythely said "we may not get through all of them". Beatrice Hill is just going to have to wait.
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 12:54:30 PM »

I love the way we've gone from possibly the shortest title of a folk song to one of the longest.  You won't see me in this thread for a while - need to learn it first!
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 02:25:12 PM »

I love the way we've gone from possibly the shortest title of a folk song TUNE to one of the longest.
Just as well it's not 'If you will not have me, you may let me go' then ;D

Mind you, I suppose there's always the Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Blues (ask Rees)  
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2011, 02:28:03 PM »

I love the way we've gone from possibly the shortest title of a folk song TUNE to one of the longest.
Just as well it's not 'If you will not have me, you may let me go' then  ;D
Now that is one of me nemesis tunes...it has defeated me many times. ;)

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 02:39:25 PM »

Point taken. It's only a song if you sing it.
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 02:55:40 PM »

Point taken. It's only a song if you sing it.
Correct!
Background: in the past we have had heated discussions on this particular subject and the way in which the English language is being abused in so-called popular culture, where all items of music are called 'songs' regardless of their content. I've even heard Beethoven's 5th symphony described as a song, dammit!

Perhaps we'd better get back on-topic now. Quick! Someone post a recording of Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel!
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2011, 03:24:03 PM »

Perhaps we'd better get back on-topic now. Quick! Someone post a recording of Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel!

A recording of Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel.  >:E

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2011, 03:45:28 PM »

Mornington Crescent!
Oh...thought you said Mrs Trellice's three hand reel ;)

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2011, 05:39:40 PM »

Really struggling with the b part. Don't have low notes only accidentals. Found it written an octave higher but is of no use as I can't read tunes in D that go further than buton 7. :(

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2011, 06:02:12 PM »

Really struggling with the b part. Don't have low notes only accidentals. Found it written an octave higher but is of no use as I can't read tunes in D that go further than buton 7. :(

Play it on a 1-row - that was how it was originally played, and it sits beautifully in the lower octave.
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2011, 06:05:31 PM »

I love the way we've gone from possibly the shortest title of a folk song to one of the longest.  You won't see me in this thread for a while - need to learn it first!

On a really good day I can get through "The Bacup Brittania Coconut Dancers Garland Dance Number Three"

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2011, 06:30:24 PM »

Really struggling with the b part. Don't have low notes only accidentals. Found it written an octave higher but is of no use as I can't read tunes in D that go further than buton 7. :(

Are you sure you don't have a low A / C# on the D row? (assuming we're talking about a D/G melodeon here...)

    F/Eb      D/F#     G/A
G#/A#  A/C#    D/E

The tune doesn't go lower than C#, when played in D.
Also... maybe this is an opportunity to explore those extra buttons on the D row. You paid for them, you should get your money's worth  ;D
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2011, 10:59:45 PM »

Really struggling with the b part. Don't have low notes only accidentals. Found it written an octave higher but is of no use as I can't read tunes in D that go further than buton 7. :(

Well then use this tune as an opportunity to learn how to! 
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 05:54:35 AM »

Does anyone have some background about Beatrice Hill and her polydexterous reel? Nick Barber mentions that the tune came from the English-Welsh border. In Nick's English Choice tunebook he has the second part up an octave - do english box players often play it that way?

The tune sounds great when played on the single row by Lester and by Ed. The idea of starting off with a B note played against an A chord (on a D melodeon) is a little bit of magic which helps to makes the tune one of my favourites.
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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2011, 07:51:34 AM »

Does anyone have some background about Beatrice Hill and her polydexterous reel? Nick Barber mentions that the tune came from the English-Welsh border. In Nick's English Choice tunebook he has the second part up an octave - do english box players often play it that way?

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BEATRICE HILL'S THREE HANDED REEL. English, Reel. D Major. Standard tuning (fiddle). AABB. The tune is sourced to melodeon player Beatrice Hill, of Bromsberrow Heath, Forest of Dean, Worcestershire, who recorded it in 1952 for collector Russell Wortley. Hill's father was the village publican and was 'King', or leader, of the Bromsberrow Heath Morris Dancers. The tune was also in the repertoire of East Anglia hammered dulcimer player Walter Geary (Norfolk) and harmonica player Dennis Crowther (south Shropshire), and has even surfaced in folk tradition in Australia, played by fiddler Charlie Bachelor as a schottische. It is also known by the title "Late Kelly's Wake" in Australia

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Re: Tune of the Month for November 2011: Beatrice Hill's Three Hand Reel
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2011, 08:13:25 AM »

In Nick's English Choice tunebook he has the second part up an octave - do english box players often play it that way?
I always have done. My "source" for the tune is the Rattlebone and Ploughjack album.- I don't remember but I suspect it's played that way there (by whom, I don't know)

Switching octaves in the B music is a useful variation opportunity.

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The idea of starting off with a B note played against an A chord (on a D melodeon) is a little bit of magic which helps to makes the tune one of my favourites.
On a two row, I like to play the B against a D chord. I'd do the C# over a G too if the box would let me...

I feel a multi-tracked 2-row and 1-row duo  coming on...
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