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What tune shall we play in January?

Rabbit Stew
- 19 (30.6%)
Bear Dance
- 23 (37.1%)
3 Sea Captains
- 8 (12.9%)
Molly Oxford
- 12 (19.4%)

Total Members Voted: 59

Voting closed: December 31, 2011, 11:11:12 PM


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Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« on: December 26, 2011, 11:02:25 PM »

Here we are again folks, 4 more tunes to choose from:

First up, last month's runner up, Rabbit Stew - here's a lovely version by our own Joreema on Duet Concertina: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7bHlSQGadM&feature=youtube_gdata

Next, a tune that comes in many flavours, the Bear Dance (also known as Berendans and Krebbel Reidans) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNJB84Gb-4 , or this splendid version (played on 3 instruments simultaneously!) where the tune is closer to the version I'd expect to hear in England, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOfiRgXV9B8&feature=related

Now a rather catchy little set dance number, 3 Sea Captains - one of those tunes that pops up in many different contexts, and would be useful in most sessions. Here's a nice version played on english concertina: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAOhFyLlBsU

Finally, a consistent favourite from the 'Favourite Morris Tune' thread, Molly Oxford (also known as Old Molly Oxford, also known as Stepback). Here's the wonderful Ed Rennie's wonderful version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYQMZeNA5aA

There we go folks, happy new year and happy voting!

Cheers,

Clive

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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 12:02:06 AM »

I think Mr. Rennie has got the hang of that box.....just delightful.
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2011, 10:03:27 AM »

For the strict vegetarians among us, Rabbit Stew is sometimes known as Saut Du Lapin (Rabbit's leap or jump)
NB that's Saut, not Sauté which would put us back in the kitchen...

There seems to be much disagreement about what to do with bar 3 of the B music so I'll take it as an opportunity for variation - if the tune get voted in, of course...
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 11:13:37 AM »

ABCs for your delectation and education:

X: 1
T: Rabbit Stew aka Saut du Lapin
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: G
BcBA GAGB | dz Bz A2z2 | ABcB ABcd |1 e2ef e2d2 :|2 e2 f2 g4 :|
gdBc d2ef | gdBc d2dd | ^cddd cddd |1 ^cddd edef :|2 e2 f2 g4 :|

X: 1
T:Bear Dance
M:2/4
L:1/8
K:Em
B2 E2 E4|B2 E2 E4|G2 G2 F2 G2|A4 G2 A2|
B2 B2 A2 A2|G2 G2 F4|E2 G2 FE D2|E8:|
E2 G2 E2 G2|F2 D2 D4|E2 G2 E2 G2|A6 GA|
B2 B2 A2 A2|G2 G2 F4|E2 G2 FE D2|E8:|

X: 1
T:Three Sea Captains
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:G
D|G2G BGB|c2A F2D|G2G BGB|d2BG2B|
cec A2c|BdB G2B|A2Bc2B|ABG FED|
G2G BGB|c2A F2D|G2G BGB|d2BG2B|
cec A2c|BdB G2F|EcB AGF|G3 G2d|
g2g dcB|ABc def|g2g dBd|ecA A2f|
gfg bge|fef afd|e2fg2f|ed^c def|
g2g dcB|ABc def|g2g dBd|ecA A2e|
gfg bge|fed AFD|EcB AGF|G3G2|]

X: 1
T:Old Molly Oxford (Step Back)
K:D
L:1/8
d2 cd e2 f2 | e2 dc Bc d2 | c2 A2 B2 G2 | A2 AG FG A2 |
d2 (3edc B2 AG |F2 A2 d4 | F2 (3FED E2 C2 | D4 D4 :||
AGFE D2 EF | G2 A2 B2 c2 | dcBA G2 A2 | Bcdf e2 ce |
d2 Bd c2 A2 |BGEF G2 B2 | AGFE D2 EF | G4 G4 :||

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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 12:00:38 PM »

Has anyone else noticed the the strong similarity between Saut du Lapin/Rabbit Stew and the well-known traditional French tune, Schottische à Catinaux? Methinks the former is a variant of the latter: the A music is almost identical.

Perhaps both tunes should be included if it wins, just as we did with Mominette and The Plane Tree a few months ago.
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2011, 12:28:48 PM »

Has anyone else noticed the the strong similarity between Saut du Lapin/Rabbit Stew and the well-known traditional French tune, Schottische à Catinaux?

Yes.
Except I play Scottish à Catinaux the other way round, so it's the B music (I think I relearned it that way from Jean Blanchard, who I presumed knew what he was doing)
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2011, 02:02:18 PM »

There is a different version I had last month:

X: 1
T: Rabbit Stew
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: reel
K: Gmaj
B3A GFGB|dBGB A4|ABcB ABcd|edef e2 d2|
B3A GFGB|dBGB A4|ABcB ABcd|e2 f2 g4:|
|:gdBc d2 ef|gdBc d4|dDDd DDdD |edef e2 d2|
gdBc d2 ef|gdBc d4|dDDd DDdD|e2 f2 g4:|

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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2011, 02:59:54 PM »

I've just been wresting with noteflight to transcribe your  version,  Mr Joreema, only to find that, meanwhile,  you have just uploaded it yourself in abc !  I'm pleased to see that my version matches yours.  So here it is anyway  as an alternative ,  and  to be able use the Noteflight features, like slowing down, changing instruments, transposing to new key etc.

http://www.noteflight.com/scores/view/1984c2ee28cb12023e35e8fa26d5ddd20bdfdb0e

Now to find out how to play the Joreema descending bassline in the B music. 

Much gratitude for the beautiful rhythm and articulation of this and the Ed Rennie tunes.  I love Melnet!

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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2011, 03:25:58 PM »

Has anyone else noticed the the strong similarity between Saut du Lapin/Rabbit Stew and the well-known traditional French tune, Schottische à Catinaux?

Yes.
Except I play Scottish à Catinaux the other way round, so it's the B music (I think I relearned it that way from Jean Blanchard, who I presumed knew what he was doing)


I learnt it from Jean Blanchard's album Accordeon Diatonique. He didn't play it the reverse way round on that recording.
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2011, 04:00:41 PM »

Just been having a go at the Rabbit, with the unusual experience of playing a major tune on my 12-bass CF box, so I can use the extra basses for the descending bass line.( It usually only plays minors.)  Then I realise I can play most of the phrases across the rows, without any significant push-pull action.
Then I realise that Mr Joreema is getting that wonderful jaunty rhythm WITHOUT PUSH-PULL, as his instrument is presumably same-note-both-ways.  Then on the other vid, we have Ed Rennie, also with great rhythm, but this time with push-pull.

So, assuming (please) that this tune wins the vote, it will be very interesting to compare the rhythmic qualities of players who play across the rows, with those who use  the more traditional push pull approach.  Melodeonists sometimes claim rhythmic benefits from push-pull style,  but Joreema doesn't need that to achieve his great results.  Personally, I have trouble keeping regular (matron) with push-pull, but then I didn't have the benefit of morris apprenticeship, that you can hear so well in Andy Cutting and Julian sutton amonst others.  Anyway, I'm going to learn it across the rows, to be like Mr J.  But, it does occur to me that, if you're not going to use the charm of push-pull,  might as well play an instrument with a sensible keyboard. (provocative twist there ).

Happy new year to all.

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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2011, 09:14:50 PM »

I learnt it from Jean Blanchard's album Accordeon Diatonique. He didn't play it the reverse way round on that recording.

Oh - maybe I learned it back to front somewhere else first - I know I heard him play it the opposite way from how I knew it.
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2011, 10:12:02 PM »

X: 1
T: Rabbit Stew aka Saut du Lapin
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: G
BcBA GAGB | dz Bz A2z2 | ABcB ABcd |1 e2ef e2d2 :|2 e2 f2 g4 :|
gdBc d2ef | gdBc d2dd | ^cddd cddd |1 ^cddd edef :|2 e2 f2 g4 :|

Lester this is a very odd abc file! I thought the main problem was that the B music doesn't have opening repeat marks which screws it up entirely but even with the |: in place it plays back very oddly in ABC Explorer and I'm at a loss to explain why!
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2011, 10:34:09 PM »

X: 1
T: Rabbit Stew aka Saut du Lapin
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: G
BcBA GAGB | dz Bz A2z2 | ABcB ABcd |1 e2ef e2d2 :|2 e2 f2 g4 :|
gdBc d2ef | gdBc d2dd | ^cddd cddd |1 ^cddd edef :|2 e2 f2 g4 :|

Lester this is a very odd abc file! I thought the main problem was that the B music doesn't have opening repeat marks which screws it up entirely but even with the |: in place it plays back very oddly in ABC Explorer and I'm at a loss to explain why!

Works perfectly well in ABC Nav 2  ???

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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2011, 04:18:48 AM »

works fine in skink
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2011, 08:11:15 AM »

X: 1
T: Rabbit Stew aka Saut du Lapin
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: G
BcBA GAGB | dz Bz A2z2 | ABcB ABcd |1 e2ef e2d2 :|2 e2 f2 g4 :|
gdBc d2ef | gdBc d2dd | ^cddd cddd |1 ^cddd edef :|2 e2 f2 g4 :|

Lester this is a very odd abc file! I thought the main problem was that the B music doesn't have opening repeat marks which screws it up entirely but even with the |: in place it plays back very oddly in ABC Explorer and I'm at a loss to explain why!
Having the extra set of repeats at the end of each 2nd-time bar is not really very good ABC syntax, although it may work with some ABC decoders. (Barfly for Mac ignores the repeats at the end of the 2nd-time bars.)

As the intention is to have a standard length 8-bar A music (which is then repeated) and similarly for the B music, it is safer for all concerned to expand the coding to remove the 1st- and 2nd-time bars:


X:2
T: Rabbit Stew aka Saut du Lapin
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: G
P:A
BcBA GAGB | dz Bz A2z2 | ABcB ABcd | e2ef e2d2 |
BcBA GAGB | dz Bz A2z2 | ABcB ABcd2 | e2 f2 g4 :|
P:B
gdBc d2ef | gdBc d2dd | ^cddd cddd | ^cddd edef |
gdBc d2ef | gdBc d2dd | ^cddd cddd  e2 f2 g4 :|
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2011, 03:34:10 PM »

Well spotted Steve, it was the erroneous second time repeats that were messing things up!
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2011, 04:04:23 PM »

Well spotted Steve, it was the erroneous second time repeats that were messing things up!

Should I need any defence it is tha the tune was just a cut'n'paste from JC's Tune Finder  ;)

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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2011, 05:47:21 PM »

Steve, I think your abc might have inadvertently acquired an extra half a beat in bar 7?
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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2011, 06:07:48 PM »

Steve, I think your abc might have inadvertently acquired an extra half a beat in bar 7?

See you just can't trust people to provid ABC that works  ;D

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Re: Poll: Tune of the month for January 2012
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2011, 06:15:41 PM »

Should I need any defence it is tha the tune was just a cut'n'paste from JC's Tune Finder  ;)

No defence needed of course and the copy 'n' paste thing is great at passing on errors! It's surprising how differently the various ABC programs handle the code and can ignore some errors but not others.  :|glug
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