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Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« on: January 01, 2012, 02:01:22 AM »

Here we go folks, another 'type of dance tune' theme building up that repertoire. This time, we'll try mazurkas, a curious little hopping 3/4 time type dance so-to-speak. These things occur in lots of different countries music, and frankly mean different things to different people, so let's keep it general; don't mind if it's an Irish, French or Hungarian mazurka; it's all good here.

If you don't think you know any, you do - L'Inconnu de Limoise which we've already done as a TOTM is a classic. If you can play that tune and jump into another tune without the rhythm changing significantly, the other tune is a mazurka. Simple as that!

Good luck, and there's some beautiful tunes out there so let's hear a few!

Cheers,

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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2012, 03:08:34 PM »

Great!  I love mazurkas, especially belgian ones. Slow enough for me to manage.   This theme  gives me an opportunity to promote my mazurka heroes, especially the wonderful MAARTEN DECOMBEL whose tunes are often played by Wim Claeys, melodeon genius of  Ghent.   I've put quite a few Decombel mazurkas on youtube, with notation on  Frenchtuneswiki.  (See website links at the end of the message)

So composed by Decombel, there are the following mazurkas on my youtube.
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Mazurka des Tuileries
1/11
Vappu
De Geliefden
L'Oostendaise

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The other Mazurka-maker I'd like to promote is Giles Brown (ex-PA and composer for  our local band Cyser),  I've recorded his memorable  "That Familiar Ache" , which is often played at our session. I'll record another of Giles's for this them.

So I hope this is helpful if you haven't come across Decombel and Claeys before.   Bands include "Goze"  "Snaarmaarvaar", and also with Fred paris etc on  the CD "En Flandres".

Happy New Year to all.

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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2012, 06:02:12 PM »

Yay, mazurkas! I know at least two of them.
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2012, 07:33:05 PM »

I find it hard to get the rhythm right with these, especially if there are no dancers. I tend to play far too fast. Here are a couple of simple ones that I can just about manage:
Le conscrit - Mazurka de Pradines. Played on a GC Hohner Morganne

http://soundcloud.com/tuftyabc/le-conscrit-mazurka-de
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2012, 09:45:49 PM »

Ah I'd not heard L'Inconnu de Limoise before today.... what a lovely discovery.

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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2012, 02:04:41 AM »

THIS is a lovely surprise!  I love the medium tempos ... mazurkas and scottishes.  Here are two mazurkas I've already done.  I'll make a point of doing more this month.

http://accordeonaire.blogspot.com/2011/10/mazurka-bec-bec.html

http://accordeonaire.blogspot.com/2011/08/mazurka-auvergnate.html
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2012, 09:34:24 AM »

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Great!  I love mazurkas, especially belgian ones. Slow enough for me to manage.   This theme  gives me an opportunity to promote my mazurka heroes, especially the wonderful MAARTEN DECOMBEL whose tunes are often played by Wim Claeys, melodeon genius of  Ghent.   I've put quite a few Decombel mazurkas on youtube, with notation on  Frenchtuneswiki.  (See website links at the end of the message)

Thanks for the inspiration Jack - your YouTube channel is great and I'm thoroughly enjoying the tunes.

I like this theme and after a too long absence think I should be able to post - actually looking forward to it!
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2012, 05:41:58 PM »

This is a Polish Mazurka which no doubt has a proper Polish name but is known locally as Lumpy Custard.

Played by me on my Penguin of Death Pokerwork and The Sainted Mrs Bailey on her Dove Silkie Hammer Dulcimer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BOHqLh86ys

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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2012, 06:19:49 PM »

This is a Polish Mazurka which no doubt has a proper Polish name but is known locally as Lumpy Custard.

Played by me on my Penguin of Death Pokerwork and The Sainted Mrs Bailey on her Dove Silkie Hammer Dulcimer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BOHqLh86ys

Lester, I don't think it's Polish, it used to be played regularly at the Goose and Firkin sessions ~20 years ago and we thought then it was Italian -- but I might well be wrong.

I'm fairly sure you've melodeonised it a bit, there are definitely some notes which aren't quite what I remember...
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2012, 06:33:44 PM »

This is a Polish Mazurka which no doubt has a proper Polish name but is known locally as Lumpy Custard.

Played by me on my Penguin of Death Pokerwork and The Sainted Mrs Bailey on her Dove Silkie Hammer Dulcimer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BOHqLh86ys

Lester, I don't think it's Polish, it used to be played regularly at the Goose and Firkin sessions ~20 years ago and we thought then it was Italian -- but I might well be wrong.

I'm fairly sure you've melodeonised it a bit, there are definitely some notes which aren't quite what I remember...

I remember playing it with you regularly at the Swan in Denham not sure who the young guy is though ;D

The reason I believe it to be Polish is I used to have sheet music for it with a Polish name but who knows?
And as I have been playing it for 20 years or more I am not in the least surprised it has changed  ;D

« Last Edit: January 03, 2012, 06:39:48 PM by Lester »
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2012, 06:59:41 PM »

This is a Polish Mazurka which no doubt has a proper Polish name but is known locally as Lumpy Custard.

Played by me on my Penguin of Death Pokerwork and The Sainted Mrs Bailey on her Dove Silkie Hammer Dulcimer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BOHqLh86ys

Lester, I don't think it's Polish, it used to be played regularly at the Goose and Firkin sessions ~20 years ago and we thought then it was Italian -- but I might well be wrong.

I'm fairly sure you've melodeonised it a bit, there are definitely some notes which aren't quite what I remember...

I remember playing it with you regularly at the Swan in Denham not sure who the young guy is though ;D

The reason I believe it to be Polish is I used to have sheet music for it with a Polish name but who knows?
And as I have been playing it for 20 years or more I am not in the least surprised it has changed  ;D
I remember Neil? (ex-Hobgoblin Music) telling me at Melodeons at Witney a few years ago that it was called the Jetskasetska (sp?) Mazurka or something like that. We always refer to it as the Pink Mazurka, because it comes from Mel Steven's Massif Central tunebook vol.1 which has a pink cover.  ;D
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2012, 07:29:25 PM »

This is a Polish Mazurka which no doubt has a proper Polish name but is known locally as Lumpy Custard.

Played by me on my Penguin of Death Pokerwork and The Sainted Mrs Bailey on her Dove Silkie Hammer Dulcimer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BOHqLh86ys

Lester, I don't think it's Polish, it used to be played regularly at the Goose and Firkin sessions ~20 years ago and we thought then it was Italian -- but I might well be wrong.

I'm fairly sure you've melodeonised it a bit, there are definitely some notes which aren't quite what I remember...

I remember playing it with you regularly at the Swan in Denham not sure who the young guy is though ;D

The reason I believe it to be Polish is I used to have sheet music for it with a Polish name but who knows?
And as I have been playing it for 20 years or more I am not in the least surprised it has changed  ;D
I remember Neil? (ex-Hobgoblin Music) telling me at Melodeons at Witney a few years ago that it was called the Jetskasetska (sp?) Mazurka or something like that. We always refer to it as the Pink Mazurka, because it comes from Mel Steven's Massif Central tunebook vol.1 which has a pink cover.  ;D

Thanks to my chum Susan (demon recorder player and tune name remembered) it seems the tune has various names:

Dziekowice, Mazurka Auvergnate, Mazurka De Barbary or Skelton's so take your pick, at least one is Polish and none are Lumpy Custard  ;D

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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2012, 07:40:40 PM »

This is a Polish Mazurka which no doubt has a proper Polish name but is known locally as Lumpy Custard.

Played by me on my Penguin of Death Pokerwork and The Sainted Mrs Bailey on her Dove Silkie Hammer Dulcimer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BOHqLh86ys

Lester, I don't think it's Polish, it used to be played regularly at the Goose and Firkin sessions ~20 years ago and we thought then it was Italian -- but I might well be wrong.

I'm fairly sure you've melodeonised it a bit, there are definitely some notes which aren't quite what I remember...

I remember playing it with you regularly at the Swan in Denham not sure who the young guy is though ;D

The reason I believe it to be Polish is I used to have sheet music for it with a Polish name but who knows?
And as I have been playing it for 20 years or more I am not in the least surprised it has changed  ;D




We also play it at my local session, no idea who starts it (or what they call it), the A and B endings are different, although I think i prefer yours.  Do you have ABC's or dots?
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2012, 08:25:45 PM »

We also play it at my local session, no idea who starts it (or what they call it), the A and B endings are different, although I think i prefer yours.  Do you have ABC's or dots?

Do I have the ABCs  ;D

X:256
T:Lumpy Custard
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:G
D2 GF G2|D2 BA B2|cB AG FG|AG FE D2|
D2 GF G2|D2 BA B2|cB AG FA|1 A2 G2 z2:|2 A2 G2 Bc||
d2 de dc|B2 G2 AB|c2 cd cB|A4 Bc|d2 de dc|B2 G2 AB|
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2012, 08:45:57 PM »

Dziekowice, Mazurka Auvergnate, Mazurka De Barbary or Skelton's so take your pick, at least one is Polish and none are Lumpy Custard  ;D
A great recording of this one is on the Gentiane album (w Jean Blanchard), followed by a great Breton waltze.

http://www.amazon.com/Musique-dAuvergne-Gentiane/dp/B000024TY2/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1325623501&sr=1-2
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2012, 11:33:57 PM »

This is a Polish Mazurka which no doubt has a proper Polish name but is known locally as Lumpy Custard.

Played by me on my Penguin of Death Pokerwork and The Sainted Mrs Bailey on her Dove Silkie Hammer Dulcimer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BOHqLh86ys

Lester, I don't think it's Polish, it used to be played regularly at the Goose and Firkin sessions ~20 years ago and we thought then it was Italian -- but I might well be wrong.

I'm fairly sure you've melodeonised it a bit, there are definitely some notes which aren't quite what I remember...

I remember playing it with you regularly at the Swan in Denham not sure who the young guy is though ;D

The reason I believe it to be Polish is I used to have sheet music for it with a Polish name but who knows?
And as I have been playing it for 20 years or more I am not in the least surprised it has changed  ;D



The "young guy" is me, obviously ;-)

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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2012, 11:51:00 PM »

As mentioned elsewhere, I'm really not a big fan of Bear Dance. However, here is my version, as a mazurka, on my Bb/Eb Erika. I've also had a go, with mixed results, at some improvisation, having watched a few of those Milleret & Pignol tutorials (must get books 2&3).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUhTr27OYLQ&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy.  (:)
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2012, 01:15:58 AM »


Thanks to my chum Susan (demon recorder player and tune name remembered) it seems the tune has various names:

Dziekowice, Mazurka Auvergnate, Mazurka De Barbary or Skelton's so take your pick, at least one is Polish and none are Lumpy Custard  ;D
That sounds more like it!  ;)
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2012, 01:18:17 AM »

As mentioned elsewhere, I'm really not a big fan of Bear Dance. However, here is my version, as a mazurka, on my Bb/Eb Erika. I've also had a go, with mixed results, at some improvisation, having watched a few of those Milleret & Pignol tutorials (must get books 2&3).

When it's finished uploading (± 20 minutes), it'll be here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUhTr27OYLQ&feature=youtu.be
Ollie, that is absolutely fabulous!  (:)
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Re: Theme of the Month for January 2012: Mazurkas
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2012, 01:22:14 PM »

Here's one I recorded a few days ago after hearing a really great version by Duo Bottasso

Jon Swayne's Motorway Mazurka.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpGdTo2AtGk
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