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Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« on: April 13, 2012, 05:48:21 PM »

Another addition to my arsenal of most despised instruments (in the US accordian of any kind is associated with Welkian dread for anyone over the age of 25...banjos too, although for different reason).

I've always wanted a nyckelharpa, but this may be the closest I come

Given my acquisition, I expect taking to the streets with this cat (where else would one unleash this?)--along with my beloved Club box, which could complement the gurdy with its sonority.

Sorry for bringing this up here...but no one in the US knows what the hell I'm doing with one of these   :|bl
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 05:58:19 PM »

I say....Crank on, brother!  ;D
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 06:05:37 PM »

 This Yahoo group Chicago Hurdy Gurdy and this  Hurdy Gurdy Mailing list  might be able to help you  ;D

   ..... and there's this Google Hurdy Gurdy group  too
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 06:08:54 PM »

Catty,
It's a great instrument, and if you play it on the streets, you will certainly have to answer lots of questions, including "where's your monkey?" (I even get that question when playing a melodeon in public -- my standard answer is: "Looking at me!") There is a NY city street musician who has been playing hurdy gurdy, so I'm sure that hundreds of thousands of residents have been exposed...
Here in Vermont, one of the least populated states, we have a number of hurdy gurdy players.  I don't think that you can proceed from the assumption that the gurdy is completely unknown here, although it is obvious that they are less commonly seen here than at French folk festivals.  I think the key point is that much of the music that would be made on a hurdy gurdy lacks social context in the US, but in my experience, where there is a context that welcomes world music (as opposed to, say, "strictly bluegrass"), you will find that many people are receptive listeners.  As to whether the instrument will be despised probably has a lot to do with what you do with it -- include how meticulous you are about tuning it!  >:E
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Another addition to my arsenal of most despised instruments (in the US accordian of any kind is associated with Welkian dread for anyone over the age of 25...banjos too, although for different reason).

I've always wanted a nyckelharpa, but this may be the closest I come

Given my acquisition, I expect taking to the streets with this cat (where else would one unleash this?)--along with my beloved Club box, which could complement the gurdy with its sonority.

Sorry for bringing this up here...but no one in the US knows what the hell I'm doing with one of these   :|bl

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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 07:52:24 PM »

I wonder whether you are the only one in Montana!  Seems possible.  Someone should do a Flickr map to pinpoint all the gurdy players in the world and find the "densest" locations!

edited to add: ... and then overlay a Flickr map of the locations of people with perfect pitch... (ducking and running!)

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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2012, 08:26:38 PM »

I`m just glad there aren`t any around here - the Hurdy Gurdy should be Banned globally, usage dealt with as a breach of the peace and an Asbo slapped on anyone even in posession of one . Definately a Class-A sound making device (calling one a "musical instrument" is as false as using the reference to football rattles, canister airhorns and air raid sirens, all of which are more musical than the Gurdy) :o ..

LOL ... Enjoy it Catty, just havin' Fun
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 08:48:52 PM »

At last thursday's 'first of the month' session, half way through someone sat 2 seats from me playing one. It's the first time I've been that close to one.
His furrowed brow indicated he didn't normally play in D/G  :D but to be fair he made a good crack at it.
We started off with some of the well known French tunes that have invaded our repertoire,  :|||:
 then we went 'local'  ;D 
....... and he kept up, it's an interesting sound.
You must have to kill a lot of cats to make it work though :'(
Best of luck!
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 08:52:11 PM »

Dolly (then aged 10) had a music class. "name an instrument"

  Sarah?  "trumpet, Miss"
  Alice?  "piano, Miss"
  Jemma:  "guitar, Miss"
  Dolly?  "Hurdy-gurdy, Miss"

"Miss" then falls off chair, having thought she was the only Gurdy grinder for about 100km radius. We later got her to Grand Bal of Bath, where she met Maxou, and Frédéric.. (:)
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 08:54:16 PM »

You might want to check this out... http://www.overthewater.org/
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2012, 09:24:25 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quynEWf4CI4&feature=player_embedded 
Captain's Courageous featuring the hurdy gurdy - apparently started a lot of people playing.
Tellingly, it was dubbed by the orchestra - imagine the heartbreak as reality struck

Bit mean really - think it's a fascinating instrument but my go on it was, um, not too hot. Not sure I have the patience for all that tuning and flossing.
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2012, 10:04:38 PM »

'Captains Courageous' was my all time favourite film as a lad.,....... Spencer tracey, Freddie Bartholomew, fishing off the Newfoundland Banks.......
'Yo ho leetle feeshy don't cry don't cry.....' whilst singing to the litte lad.
Loved it.
Haven't seen it in donkeys years but it's still there.
( sighhh )

lapses off into own leetle world...........
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I think I'm starting to get most of the notes in roughly the right order...... sometimes!

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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 10:35:02 PM »

I also have a hurdy gurdy ad I play it regulary :-)
I recommend to start with a teacher .. this is very important to avoid bad habits ...

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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2012, 10:45:39 PM »

My grandfather went to Montana once. He told me that there were stretches of land as far as the eye could see and further without a single living soul where you could do anything without anyone ever knowing you were even there...perfect place for a hurdy gurdy player. >:E

Having said that, I'm currently agonising over whether my next instrument purchase after my F/Bb will be a gurdy or a low D/G...
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2012, 01:52:36 AM »

Catty,
It's a great instrument, and if you play it on the streets, you will certainly have to answer lots of questions, including "where's your monkey?"............

If this occurs, be certain you have the employment applications at hand.
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2012, 05:15:42 AM »

Ha yes, fortunately I have a penchant for sitting around fiddling with my tuning--used to love learning Kottke and Fahey tunes on my 12 string guitars...and I'm used to tweaking the pins on my harp and hammered dulcimer interminably :|glug 

Nice to see so many lovers (and haters :P ) -- gurdy can't be accused of engendering ambivalence...there's something monstrous, sinister, about it; look at it...it's staring at me.  Doubtless these weren't permitted in the Church! I like sitting around listening to scandinavian music-- some of it sounds kinda weird to me, and so maybe the gurdy will help my weirdness..  What I need is someone to crank it while I play my other instruments--was jabbing at my bouzoukis tonight and thought how nice it'd be.  I'd love to get a quartet going.  I don't know that my hardingfele-playing buddy would put up with it..

Thanks for the links--I'll check em out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLw2MA3woyM

About the monkey...I think I would say, when queried, that the barrel organ takes monkeys; the gurdy takes cats--you put em in and grind em up
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 07:40:29 AM »

I wonder whether you are the only one in Montana!  Seems possible. 

"I'm the only one in the village. You know". Where have I heard that before ?

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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2012, 08:32:49 AM »

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"I'm the only one in the village. You know". Where have I heard that before ?

Chas

If it was "Little Hungary" rather than "Little Britain", I could see the subect matter being Gurdy playing "I`m the only Gurdy player in the village" - "you`re not a real gurdy player, just a violinist messing about"  ???
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2012, 08:34:51 AM »

Dolly (then aged 10) had a music class. "name an instrument"

  Sarah?  "trumpet, Miss"
  Alice?  "piano, Miss"
  Jemma:  "guitar, Miss"
  Dolly?  "Hurdy-gurdy, Miss"


Miss then states clearly that the Hurdy Gurdy isn`t a instrument of music but a Romanian instrument of torture  ;D ..
I love oddball musical instruments from Kalimbas to Serpents from bagpipes to Theremins (I play the theremin badly but CAN get a tune out of it) , I have an ARP 2600 which can be very musical once all the sliders are in the right place and the wires poked into the right holes but a line has to be drawn somewhere ;D
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2012, 09:59:55 AM »

A couple of weeks ago I was in a session with a nyckelharpa and a hurdy gurdy  :o
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Re: Am I lost? hurdy gurdy...
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2012, 10:08:34 AM »

The monkey reference made me smile and remember an occasion when I was younger working on building a new shop in the high street. The first thing I had to do every morning was to start up a huge diesel powered cement mixer. You had to set fire to an oily rag and stuff it near the fuel pipes to warm it up then turn it over using a handle until it eventually roared into life. I was swinging away on the handle and an old boy passing by shouted. 'I don't go much on the tune and your bluddy monkeys on fire'. Sorry to go off topic but it still makes me laugh.
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