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Discussions => Tune of the Month => Topic started by: Clive Williams on August 31, 2019, 11:26:22 PM
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This month's tune is this great morris tune, which (as I have learned!) comes in 2 versions;
Saul's fantastic version of this with a 6 bar B music - 2nd tune on the set; the following link drops you right at the spot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3lrCIJCZIk&feature=youtu.be&t=124
... and here's an example of the more traditional version with a 5 bar B music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqBXz-u0pl8 (no melodeon video of this yet, so this Albion Band version will do nicely)
Looking forward to see what you all come up with :-)
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A new tune to me and an enjoyable way to spend a Sunday morning
https://youtu.be/peItxxrURqg
Three ways, crossover tune but played AABB here. G 4 stop, D/G Pokerwork and Bb/Eb Erika.
All the best
Bill
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Here's a Webley Twizzle (https://youtu.be/JmPKTfhNHFQ) on my Oakwood. Two rows, three keys. Even some interesting bass possibilities in C.
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https://youtu.be/TnlcI889hG4
My version of the webley twizzle. My first entry of tune of the month.
I do not know anything about (Morris) dance, I simply associate this melody with my Grandfather's clock. Janneke
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https://youtu.be/TnlcI889hG4
My version of the webley twizzle. My first entry of tune of the month.
I do not know anything about (Morris) dance, I simply associate this melody with my Grandfather's clock. Janneke
Haha, wonderful!
Here's a Webley Twizzle (https://youtu.be/JmPKTfhNHFQ) on my Oakwood. Two rows, three keys. Even some interesting bass possibilities in C.
This is very nice, I like the gradual move up the keyboard. A little surprised not to see a glance at playing it in A in there though... contrasts with Bill's gradual descent (also into more complicated chords)
Also, a direct source of sheet music & ABC, for those who'd wish for a link:
https://themorrisring.org/tradition/bampton/music/webley-twizzle
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I tried A, but the G# really got in the way, especially as it's still a push note on the Oakwood. It would have taken more time than I felt like devoting to it.
I tried minor keys too, but abandoned that for similar reasons of what you could call laziness.
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I tried minor keys too, but abandoned that for similar reasons of what you could call laziness.
Well, I don't think you could ever call getting a cracking, in-3-keys submission in on the 2nd day of the month 'laziness'! I just saw the notes and thought to myself hmm! That could work in A, that. Simply left as an exercise for others, perhaps!
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https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/webley-twizzle-take-1
Pariselle workshop accordion in G/C
One medium voice
Thrice through in three slightly different styles
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https://soundcloud.com/laubblaeser/webley-twizzle-take-1
Pariselle workshop accordion in G/C
One medium voice
Thrice through in three slightly different styles
Nicely played, and a lovely sounding box with that single reed sound.
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My contribution for The Webley Twizzle.
https://soundcloud.com/greg-bradfield-smith/the-webley-twizzle
I voted for this tune. It's a lovely little tune that I have been meaning to learn for years.
I have all sorts of ways of making it more interesting but, as always, my fingers do whatever they want as soon as I press record.
Three times through. Played pretty straight. It finishes a bit abruptly. I had one more round to play but fingers decided no. They were going to stop.
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My contribution for The Webley Twizzle.
https://soundcloud.com/greg-bradfield-smith/the-webley-twizzle
I voted for this tune. It's a lovely little tune that I have been meaning to learn for years.
I have all sorts of ways of making it more interesting but, as always, my fingers do whatever they want as soon as I press record.
Three times through. Played pretty straight. It finishes a bit abruptly. I had one more round to play but fingers decided no. They were going to stop.
Straightforward playing. I like it. Well done. :)
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Straightforward playing. I like it. Well done. :)
Thank you, sir (:)
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My contribution for The Webley Twizzle.
https://soundcloud.com/greg-bradfield-smith/the-webley-twizzle
........ It finishes a bit abruptly. I had one more round to play but fingers decided no. They were going to stop.
I have fingers like that.
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My contribution for The Webley Twizzle.
https://soundcloud.com/greg-bradfield-smith/the-webley-twizzle
........ It finishes a bit abruptly. I had one more round to play but fingers decided no. They were going to stop.
I have fingers like that.
It's a shame really, it was the best variation I have ever come up with. Now the world will never hear it 8)
[edit: truth is, I was was just recording to see how it sounded and I felt I had captured the things I wanted. I had worked a lot on steadying the tempo and trying to get a rolling feel to it. Twiddles and triplets weren't what I wanted. I decided I wasn't going to improve enough, on what I had, already, to justify the diminishing returns, so I am better off moving on to the theme.]
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My contribution for The Webley Twizzle.
https://soundcloud.com/greg-bradfield-smith/the-webley-twizzle
I really like it, Greg - played with gusto and confidence!
I find this tune a bit cramped at the bottom of the keyboard. I wonder how it feels/sounds in the upper octave. Hoping to get more practice time in now that my kids are back in school and I have some time on my own in the mornings again.
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I really like it, Greg - played with gusto and confidence!
I find this tune a bit cramped at the bottom of the keyboard. I wonder how it feels/sounds in the upper octave. Hoping to get more practice time in now that my kids are back in school and I have some time on my own in the mornings again.
Thank you Jess. Have fun in the land of the upper octave (:)
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Hello all, here we go, my version of Webley Twizzle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ2ZU1_6Jtk
I struggle to remember this tune; seem to have a bit of a mental block thing going on. Once I've got the first bar or so, I'm off, but the number of times I've had to listen to other recordings to remind myself how it goes is just unreal. Why is that I wonder?
Played on a D/G Castagnari Mory...
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I tried A, but the G# really got in the way, especially as it's still a push note on the Oakwood. It would have taken more time than I felt like devoting to it.
I tried minor keys too, but abandoned that for similar reasons of what you could call laziness.
When the the B music lose a bar then?
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Hello all, here we go, my version of Webley Twizzle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ2ZU1_6Jtk
Beautiful chords, Clive.
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When the the B music lose a bar then?
Apparently it's often played that way, with 5 bar B music. See first message in this thread, or here for example: http://www.folktunefinder.com/tunes/195316
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When the the B music lose a bar then?
My question would be "When did id GAIN a bar?" I've been dancing & playing it with a 5-bar B music since 1966.........
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When the the B music lose a bar then?
My question would be "When did id GAIN a bar?" I've been dancing & playing it with a 5-bar B music since 1966.........
From Bacon's Handbook.
Jinky Wells had the tune from a man called Webb, and named the dance (which Fred Hamer thought he had probably invented) after him.
Tune unusual - only five bars in each half of the B music.
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When the the B music lose a bar then?
My question would be "When did id GAIN a bar?" I've been dancing & playing it with a 5-bar B music since 1966.........
I was dancing with a side in the 1980s who used the five-bar version. I recently played for them and imagine the scene when their current musician played the six-bar version and I played the five-bar one. You just look away for 25 years and everything gets changed...
Note to Clive: Think of the A music as a variation on "Hey Diddle Diddle, the Cat and the Fiddle" and you can't forget it. Maybe.
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When the the B music lose a bar then?
Apparently it's often played that way, with 5 bar B music. See first message in this thread, or here for example: http://www.folktunefinder.com/tunes/195316
I first found the five bar tune in the Journal of the English Folk Dance and Song Society Vol. VIII. No. 1 1956. Where it is accompanied by this quote from William 'Jinkey' Wells:
Then there's 'The Webley'. What made me call it the Webley was I had it from a man by the name of Webb, but it was more of an old fashioned big form dance; but it was a good tune - just right for Morris dancing. There was four verses, but I never knowed the song properly. I always reckoned, you know, that that was one of our best dances and yet up at Cecil Sharp's House they didn't think much of it."
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Is it only me that thinks this tune is similar to Banks and Braes o'Bonnie Doon?
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Is it only me that thinks this tune is similar to Banks and Braes o'Bonnie Doon?
No, Hugh, it's not just you; that's my aide-memoire if I suddenly find my fingers want to play something else!
Graham
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The Webliest of all my Twizzles:
https://youtu.be/7crd7Jcv2Dk
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The Webliest of all my Twizzles:
https://youtu.be/7crd7Jcv2Dk
Very Webley. Nicely done. Love the big smile at the end, too.
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I can remember playing this in the 1970's but not since.
I have a copy of a hand-written manuscript of morris tunes which was/is in the Manchester Morris archive. I'm not sure who compiled it but it pre-dates the "Black Book" and someone took great care to compile the collected sources.
I've attached the entry for The Webley which contains 3 versions, one from William Wells as collected by Sharp (The 5 bar version), the second similar but with dotted notes and 9/8 bars at the end of both A and B phrases and lastly the 6 bar version. with the note (From a Bampton Fiddler 1961 and as learned from Bampton Dancers by Reg Hall). There's also a note "Of the 3 Webley variants only the 3rd fitted the dance as performed in 1961".
Here's my recording of all 3 variants on a Salltarelle Pastourelle III with the L reed and lower bass reed switched off.
https://youtu.be/MIhjNFbTRd0 (https://youtu.be/MIhjNFbTRd0)
Mitch
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Hi all; time to move on to a new tune, so as ever please feel free to stick late contributions on the end of this thread
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When the the B music lose a bar then?
Apparently it's often played that way, with 5 bar B music. See first message in this thread, or here for example: http://www.folktunefinder.com/tunes/195316
I'd like to see anyone dancing it with a bar missing -- or even more so the version with a vertical hey, Weobley Leapfrog...
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When the the B music lose a bar then?
Apparently it's often played that way, with 5 bar B music. See first message in this thread, or here for example: http://www.folktunefinder.com/tunes/195316 (http://www.folktunefinder.com/tunes/195316)
I'd like to see anyone dancing it with a bar missing -- or even more so the version with a vertical hey, Weobley Leapfrog...
The stepping is sidestep right, sidestep left, forry into the hey, step out of the hey. Grand Union used to do it.
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I'd like to see anyone dancing it with a bar missing
Yes, a 4-bar B music would be a bit taxing.........
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When the the B music lose a bar then?
Apparently it's often played that way, with 5 bar B music. See first message in this thread, or here for example: http://www.folktunefinder.com/tunes/195316 (http://www.folktunefinder.com/tunes/195316)
I'd like to see anyone dancing it with a bar missing -- or even more so the version with a vertical hey, Weobley Leapfrog...
The stepping is sidestep right, sidestep left, forry into the hey, step out of the hey. Grand Union used to do it.
The version we do -- which I believe is as collected, though of course I could be wrong -- has 2 sidesteps, a hey with 3 forry capers, single caper to finish. Which is 6 bars...
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When the the B music lose a bar then?
Apparently it's often played that way, with 5 bar B music. See first message in this thread, or here for example: http://www.folktunefinder.com/tunes/195316 (http://www.folktunefinder.com/tunes/195316)
I'd like to see anyone dancing it with a bar missing -- or even more so the version with a vertical hey, Weobley Leapfrog...
The stepping is sidestep right, sidestep left, forry into the hey, step out of the hey. Grand Union used to do it.
The version we do -- which I believe is as collected, though of course I could be wrong -- has 2 sidesteps, a hey with 3 forry capers, single caper to finish. Which is 6 bars...
The version I learned with Jockey in the late 1960s, and as far as I am aware as danced by most, if not all, sides at that time, is exactly as described by Lester. "As collected" depends very much on "when", "by whom" and "from whom". To be clear, I'm not suggesting any version is "right" or "wrong" - just that the 5-bar B version is the way I've always known it.