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Accordions made of oak
« on: November 06, 2019, 03:29:44 AM »

Wondering if anyone has any experience with making or playing accordions from oak. Can’t say I’ve done either myself, but I’m curious to know if it has any nice qualities to make a decent box.
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2019, 07:55:10 AM »

Castagnari 1 row melodeon is made from oak but I think it's American white oak (of kitchen furniture fame) rather than English or European variety (willing to be corrected) still my favourite melodeon for Irish and there's been a few  ::) All the Best mory
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2019, 08:26:30 AM »

I had a G/C Lilium which was made of what I believe to be White oak (but possibly Ash?), with decorative Padouk inserts.
Plays beautifully with a great sound. Sold to another forum member  ;)
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2019, 08:55:15 AM »

I had a G/C Lilium which was made of what I believe to be White oak (but possibly Ash?), with decorative Padouk inserts.
Plays beautifully with a great sound. Sold to another forum member  ;)
That's definitely oak.
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2019, 09:29:33 AM »

I think Cairdin have also made from oak.
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2019, 10:07:54 AM »

I had a G/C Lilium which was made of what I believe to be White oak (but possibly Ash?), with decorative Padouk inserts.
Plays beautifully with a great sound. Sold to another forum member  ;)

That's one of the most handsome instruments I've seen. I'd like it for the design of the stops alone.
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2019, 12:22:19 PM »

Yes, it is a lovely looking box.
Currently Castagnari have a Trilly in their range of 2 row/ 8 basses.
The Trilly looks very similar with inlays, but with push buttons for basses and grill switches instead of pull stops. I would think it's their modern version of the Lilium.
Not available in Oak though....
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2019, 12:44:56 PM »

Yes, it is a lovely looking box.
Currently Castagnari have a Trilly in their range of 2 row/ 8 basses.
The Trilly looks very similar with inlays, but with push buttons for basses and grill switches instead of pull stops. I would think it's their modern version of the Lilium.
Not available in Oak though....
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2019, 12:51:55 PM »

Ah I thought so, thanks Steve for confirming.
I must admit, as you well know, I like the look of the Trilly. I just think the number of treble grill swiches are a bit of an overkill.
Saying that, after a quick squeeze at a workshop recently I think it is a nice box that is very flexible with its choice of voices.
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2019, 12:53:37 PM »

Only 2 instruments have really got my heart going when I played them, both belonging to Pete at Acorn. One was the 1914 Castagnari, the other was a GC Lilium. Georgeous sound and response.
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2019, 12:55:28 PM »

I think Cairdin have also made from oak.

Yes, I remember trying one of the early Cairdins being sold by The Music Room that was oak, a friend locally has one the same.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2019, 01:39:07 PM »

I have seen one or two boxes which look like oak but on closer inspection have turned out to be Chestnut,
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2019, 01:48:45 PM »

I could almost forsake my predilection for old Hohners, for a box as beautiful looking as that.

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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2019, 03:59:24 PM »

Early 1980s Messervier one-rows such as this one were made of oak.  Many people feel this was one of Messervier's better models - if not the best.   
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2019, 06:20:41 PM »

De rigueur for nautical melodies, shanties and forebitters.  Heart of Oak for preference.
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2019, 06:47:28 PM »

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Early 1980s Messervier one-rows such as this one were made of oak.  Many people feel this was one of Messervier's better models - if not the best.

Staining oak red - that's sacrilege and looks awful!
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2019, 06:57:05 PM »

I'm not mad about varnish either, but the point for me about the Lilium isn't at all to do with how it looks. It is brilliantly engineered to feel, respond and sound fantastic.
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2019, 07:34:16 PM »

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Staining oak red - that's sacrilege and looks awful!

If you say so (I mean, it's your opinion, not a universal truth).  It may have been red oak to start with, anyway !  ;)
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2019, 07:45:06 PM »

Early 1980s Messervier one-rows such as this one were made of oak.  Many people feel this was one of Messervier's better models - if not the best.

I can't help but have the impression to look at furniture  ;D

Joke aside, wouldn't the reason why there is not so much oak accordions be its high density?
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Re: Accordions made of oak
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2019, 08:52:11 PM »

Early 1980s Messervier one-rows such as this one were made of oak.  Many people feel this was one of Messervier's better models - if not the best.

I can't help but have the impression to look at furniture  ;D

Joke aside, wouldn't the reason why there is not so much oak accordions be its high density?
Maybe high density? But I think it could be , its not the best for working and  lousy to finish ( open grain shows in the finish) , there are fillers of course or extra coats of finish to be applied. If I was to use it it would have to be quarter sawn for looks and stability. Old growth/ white oak:)
Then again maybe open grain could help with sound ;)
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