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[Blake]

I tried searching, but wasn't able to find comment on this. Mods, please merge if I am mistaken.
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I'm fumbling around trying to come up with fingerings/bellows for a piece (Indifference by Tony Murena).

I'm using my DG box to play it in Em. There is a heavily repeated trill that is c-d-c, which is a pull-push-pull trill. yikes.

There's a fantastic rendition on youtube by Gianfranco Rongo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgP_8NV6p6Q&lc=UgxL1Ml-PnNvemqjDfp4AaABAg.9AVujV6TZZY9AiyfDP5GPm
Looks as if he flips the push-pull on that 5th button-top row to make that trill easy peasy. He's on an E-A box.

Has anyone else done this and how does it affect their playing in different styles? Thanks!

[Tone Dumb Greg]

I'm using my DG box to play it in Em. There is a heavily repeated trill that is c-d-c, which is a pull-push-pull trill. yikes.

Don't you have a D reversal on your helper row? On the layout on this site it's on the middle button.

[Squeaky Pete]

Greg, this is on a two row.
Blake, the 'Dutch reversal' achieves this.
I have only done this on a box of mine in the past week or two, but so far I have found it doesn't cause any problems.
Other members have had their boxes set up like this from the start. As you might expect it's not at all unusual in Holland.

[JohnAndy]

I tried searching, but wasn't able to find comment on this. Mods, please merge if I am mistaken.

Flipping those reeds is called a "Dutch Reversal". Try searching for that phrase and you'll find some discussion of this.

I have had a Dutch Reversal for the last 6 months. I like it, but it does have a big impact on fingering patterns and a lot of re-learning is required!

[Tone Dumb Greg]

Greg, this is on a two row.
Blake, the 'Dutch reversal' achieves this.
Holland.

I think Blake's DG is a  Mory so he already has a reversed (pull) D

[Edit: Is that right, Blake? It's what your profile says]

[Blake]

Greg, this is on a two row.
Blake, the 'Dutch reversal' achieves this.
Holland.

I think Blake's DG is a  Mory

[Edit: Is that right, Blake? It's what your profile says]

It is a DG Mory. Tuning is like Andy Cutting and I'm luke warm on the accidental row tunings. I usually chalk that up to my lack of skill, but I really wish I had a middle register D pull and E push, so I may try flipping those reeds.

[Blake]

Don't you have a D reversal on your helper row? On the layout on this site it's on the middle button.

My accidental row is:

E/LowD  G#/Bb  Eb/F  C/HighD  G#/Bb

No middle D on the pull.

[Blake]

Flipping those reeds is called a "Dutch Reversal". Try searching for that phrase and you'll find some discussion of this.

I have had a Dutch Reversal for the last 6 months. I like it, but it does have a big impact on fingering patterns and a lot of re-learning is required!

Many thinks! I will search and struggle. haha.

[Squeaky Pete]

I posted my revised layout for a 2½ row on the last post on my silly lockdown projects.
It's my take on how best to use the flipped d/e plate.

[Tone Dumb Greg]

Don't you have a D reversal on your helper row? On the layout on this site it's on the middle button.

My accidental row is:

E/LowD  G#/Bb  Eb/F  C/HighD  G#/Bb

No middle D on the pull.

I had a Mory on extended loan last year. It had that layout. I didn't get on with it. I think it's a GC layout shifted up to DG. Didn't work for me. I have an E/D reversal on my helper row and a pull D at the chin end. If it were mine I would change it.

[Blake]

If it were mine I would change it.

I actually just emailed Doug at Button box about sending me some reeds and frames to switch that middle button out. :)
Thanks!

[Dick Rees]

Or you could "Club" it by making the D a gleichton and follow the Club system helper row.

Or you could pick up an unaltered Club to explore the system.  They're usually priced reasonably and the system is really versatile.

[Blake]

gleichton

Wow---so much to learn today!

[Winston Smith]

Blake, I'm sure that someone else has said it before, but a day without learning is a day wasted!