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Peadar

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The MAD Index
« on: November 10, 2019, 12:26:20 AM »

Do you suffer from MAD? Are you a borderline case? Use the MAD index to check up on yourself.

The MAD Index is calculated as follows

(M-0.5B)2/(P+1)= MAD Index

Where M = Number of Melodeons in your posession
P= Number of Tunes you can play
B= Unfinished Project Boxes
The healthy MADI range for a normal adult is 0.5- 1.0 but this is subject to peer review.

21/11/2019- Formula modified (M-B) altered to (M-0.5B) to recognise that project boxes  should not be completely discounted .....I do wonder if project boxes should be added rather than subtracted since an excessive number would suggest a really serious case of MAD....not merely compulsive acquisition of melodeons but no regard as to whether they are playable or not. Seriously - Alcoholics can accumulate huge collections of empty whisky bottles but they do tend to acquire them full.
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2019, 01:13:06 AM »

I think this is an important advancement in ‘MAD science.’ So that makes you a MAD scientist,  no?

I have five playable melodeons.
one toy that isn’t payable (not counting fully as it is a toy, but that is my take on the model.)
I can play about 20 tunes pretty well

(5-0.5)^2/21=0.96

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I did mine incorrectly, I see. My total melodeon count, M is 5.5, not 5.

(5.5-0.5)^2/21= 1.19

I need to learn a few tunes to get this index into the realms of sanity apparently.

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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2019, 01:33:15 AM »

I'm normal  >:E
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2019, 06:42:59 AM »

I’m not=! :o
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2019, 08:33:07 AM »

I think I may be a bit of an oddball here - I'm in it for the music. I've got several button accordions right enough - four vintage Paolo Sopranis - but that's not the point. It's not about the accordions, it's about the music. As it happens I can't play anything else, so I play button accordion. I think some of you are in it for the melodeons. I don't understand that.
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2019, 08:40:26 AM »

(8-3.5)^2/(~20+1)=~0.96

On the verge of madness.

I think I may be a bit of an oddball here - I'm in it for the music. I've got several button accordions right enough - four vintage Paolo Sopranis - but that's not the point. It's not about the accordions, it's about the music. As it happens I can't play anything else, so I play button accordion. I think some of you are in it for the melodeons. I don't understand that.
It's a bit of a combination for me. I'm definitely here for the music, but as I can play other instruments as well, I choose to play the box because for me it best creates the music I want to hear. From here, different boxes have different qualities and sound better when playing different tunes.
Other than that, project boxes etc. are a nice hobby for the thrifty player.
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2019, 08:46:29 AM »

(15 - 8)²/~100 + 1 = ~ 0.48

Obviously, I'm not quite normal.
Room for another one I think.
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2019, 09:15:09 AM »

How to take account of different types of melodeons ? One versus two or three rows, different keys etc ? I know lots of tunes on my D/Gs but still getting fingers around the new 2.6 G/C...
Formula might some refinement...

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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2019, 09:38:14 AM »

Current MADI* ..... 15.24

Treatment: learn a few more tunes  ;D

I have me eye on a couple more boxes... more tunes !   ::)

*Applying the formula to Instruments (IAD) indicates a CIAD of (!!!) sufficient to cause infinite happiness  :D
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2019, 09:52:15 AM »

The number of tunes I can play is a wild guess - over the years I must have learned hundreds and forgotten at least half of them. However, given a quick reminder I could probably make a stab at a fair proportion of the forgotten ones.  After a flick through my session/band tune notebook I settled on a number I thought I could play reliably and got a result of 0.35......

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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2019, 10:49:46 AM »

What do you do if the number of working boxes you have = the number of project boxes? It doesn't seem to matter how many tunes you know, the index works out to zero.
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2019, 10:57:26 AM »

What do you do if the number of working boxes you have = the number of project boxes? It doesn't seem to matter how many tunes you know, the index works out to zero.
I think M includes both working and non-working boxes.
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2019, 11:15:22 AM »

I think I may be a bit of an oddball here - I'm in it for the music. I've got several button accordions right enough - four vintage Paolo Sopranis - but that's not the point. It's not about the accordions, it's about the music. As it happens I can't play anything else, so I play button accordion. I think some of you are in it for the melodeons. I don't understand that.

Same here...I’ve got 14 accordions/melodeons and I agree it’s not about these...it’s about the music  ;)
So, I’m normal really.
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2019, 11:48:20 AM »

Applying the formula to my vintage Hohner accordions:

(6-2)2/(24+1) = 16/25 = 0,64 = healthy

Must learn more tunes before fixing those 2 lame boxes ...

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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2019, 12:08:54 PM »

What do you do if the number of working boxes you have = the number of project boxes? It doesn't seem to matter how many tunes you know, the index works out to zero.
I think M includes both working and non-working boxes.

Of course! So that, if your boxes are all project boxes, then your index is zero.
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2019, 12:50:08 PM »

Current MADI* ..... 15.24

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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2019, 01:19:26 PM »

So many sufferers, so much denial :(

MAD = Mutually Agreed Denial.............

My maths was never up to much but I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, my score comes out consistently as 'wombat'  :o
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2019, 01:22:51 PM »

u w0t m8

Unfortunately Google Translate can't handle yoofspeke or English writ like what it's spoke but I'll try me best for you Fred

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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2019, 02:12:58 PM »

Unfortunately Google Translate can't handle yoofspeke or English writ like what it's spoke but I'll try me best for you Fred

Yers innit, I wot, u wot 2, wassat innit, innit?

I think Fred was asking you how you arrived at a figure of 15.24 for your MAD Index. Or as the maths teacher at school used to say "show your working" (innit?)  ;)
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Re: The MAD Index
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2019, 03:01:25 PM »

I think some of you are in it for the melodeons. I don't understand that.

I love both. When I was a kid, I collected manual typewriters, which were abundant because electrics were becoming popular. I had over 30 to my parents' dismay. I loved the complexity of the mechanisms and the power of the result: the written word.

And so, when I went to college, I got tired of moving those typewriters around every semester and donated them to a theater that did a lot of period pieces.

I think my interest in accordions is similar, I'm a wee bit less compulsive about it, but the power of the machine to assist in the expression of emotion is fascinating to me. And, some of them reflect exemplary craftsmanship and are things of beauty unto themselves.
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